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Picspam Reaction: Supernatural 5.14
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Spoiler and Theorizing Timeline

-Sometime last month. Episode title "My Bloody Valentine". And the boys might be in some way hunting Cupid. Heh. Given that I haven't ever had a truly positive Valentine's Day, and quite a few horrific ones, I'm rather evilly gleeful about the possibility of this particular holiday icon getting the Kripke treatment. On a less personal note, I suspect that the Trickster/Gabriel is somehow involved in this, and we might get an unexpectedly awesome season arc development in this episode, or a cliffhanger, since they had to know it was gonna be the pre-Olympic-Hiatus episode. And the title being the massive shout-out to Jensen's movie will never stop being awesome, even if, like 'Back to The Future II', they might have had last minute rights issues and had to change it. I hope they don't and this is the title it goes to air with.


So, with the aftermath of a screaming migraine, and the wind howling and threatening to cut off the power any second, let's do this. \o/


Picspam Reaction with spec and meta for Supernatural 5.14 - "My Bloody Valentine" \o/


Well there goes my brain melting again. o.O



-Then! Horsemen! Horsemen's Ring! Blood! Dead tired and discouraged Dean! ...wait, I thought this was gonna be a crack episode, what the hell?

-Meanwhile back in the Now, a couple are having a first date before the title card. They are so very dead.
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-Concrete-ish timeline reference! Sometime the week before Feb. 14th. Yay for concrete timeline refs! \o/

-"I respect the crap out of you right now."/"Shut up!" *snerk*

-Biting and drawing blood...O.O Okay wow, that was rather a lot more than kinky. What is it with this show and canon bloodplay. o.O
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-Aaaaand now they're eating each other. Holy crap that's disturbing.

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Reminds me of... crap. That art thing. Guy with melting clocks. Um. Google later. [Dali. This painting: Autumn Cannibalism. Note to self; never ever ever extensively look at paintings by Salvador Dali after a recent migraine. Ever. Gahh.]

-I see what you did there, Show. Ha ha ha.
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-Yay, they got to use the title! \o/
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-Stripey ties!
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-Did Dean say something about codependency? *beats tv feed audio track* [Yep. Regarding the two people eating each other. *pats Dean in a lightly disturbed manner*]

-Written by Ben Edlund. So, crack? Some? Yes? *eyes the 'Then' contents dubiously*

-Unattached drifter Christmas. Ha!

-"It's when a dog doesn't eat, that's when you know something's really wrong."/"Remarkably patronizing concern, duly noted." Hee!
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-Director Mike Rohl. He's done a lot of stuff on the series, and quite a few other Vancouver series, I think.

-I like Brad. He is so very dead.
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-'You aren't allowed to work or go out! You have to be with me every second!' Yeah. No. Fuck no. Sorry, trigger issues. :-/ Moving on now.

-And yep, Brad's dead. Poor Brad. Maybe the curse of the A names is starting to spread to the B's?
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-Was that a Reaper? And Sam can detect them? Ooo.

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-Hey! Coroner! It's that guy! Um... crap! He was on Supernatural before! First season, something. [Jay Brazeau, he was the Librarian in Provenance, also he was on Harper's Island as a physician.]
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-Agents Marley and Cliff. Great. No idea who Cliff might be, but due to 'Agent Marley' now I'm irrevocably earwormed by "Jammin'". Thanks, Dean. :-P

-Refrigerate after opening. *snerk* Edlund. Also holy lax morgue security. o.O

-And completely different stripey ties. How many ties do these guys have, anyway?
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-Enochian on the heart. Oooo. What the hell? Also, Sam's got eyes like an eagle to spot that off-white squiggle in all that. It's like an optometrist test. *squints*
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-Dean and Sam are adorable when they get their lab geek on.
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-"Angel scratches." Oh, like that term won't find its way into fic. I mean, I'm Gen in the brain and it sounds kinky to me.

-Hee, Castiel. Hi! [Love the tiny delay between actual voice and faint phone sound.]
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-"I'm gonna hang up now." Hee. I don't know what's more adorable; that Castiel's still that socially clueless, or that there's a very faint chance he might be deliberately winding Dean up there. :-)
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-Yes Castiel, when you pick up severed human body parts, they often leak.
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-Cupid. Cherub third class. Not incontinent (which means that somewhere along the line, Castiel has learned the purpose of a diaper... de-aging fic?). Yep, there's Edlund, adding crack to the mytharc again. *nods*

-"Cupid has gone rogue and we have to stop him before he kills again!" OMG, mad props for delivering that line with not only a straight face but intensity. *snerk*
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Although in all honesty, I don't think the situation is nearly ugly enough to be a rogue cupid. Love gone bad and obsessive... yeah. Not nearly ugly enough. Anyway. Moving on again.


-"Naturally!"/"Of course we do." Hee!
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-Dean's not hungry. And Castiel is??? Okay, there's an epic level of wrong going on here. o.O
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-Castiel with the 'hand of control' gesture, in half-lighting. Very cool. [Does not cap worth beans though. ]
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-Ah. I see. Cupid needs no pants. *facepalm* EDLUND!!! *shakes fist*

-Oh god. Hee!
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"Are we in a fight?" Well, it is non-consensual hugging by a naked guy, so technically that would be an assault. Not quite molestation I don't think, although arguments could be made.
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-"What can I do for you?" No one asks him to put on some pants?

-Cupid's rather adorable actually. All this is extra snerk-worthy to me because he looks almost exactly like a guy I used to game with (no, not him. Or him. You don't know him) only he had darker hair and wasn't terribly adorable. Most of his characters were like this too. Waaaaay over-the-top and cracky.
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-Aw, they made a cherub cry. Though seriously an evil mass-murdering entity's best tactic when captured would be to burst into tears at the earliest opportunity, because when evil starts crying it throws the good guys for a loop.
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-Ooo, Castiel can read fellow angel's minds. Or at least lower level fellow angels. That couldn't possibly come in handy for anyone in the future in any way. Nooooo, not at aaaaall. *puts angel-mind-reading on the wall along with Jesse and several other things I really should inventory one of these days*

-Bloodlines meeting, destinies. And yet someone still had to choose and send the order. When exactly did Zachariah usurp Heaven's chain of command? This is becoming something that really needs to be determined. Heaven's orders have been coming from Zachariah for an indeterminate time, wherein he's decided to bring on the Apocalypse. Decided. Free will. See previous insane meta.

-Dean Winchester punched a cherub! This fills me with great glee. Dean, you know punching angels doesn't work out well for you. Silly. Although I don't blame you for punching him. I woulda punched him too, even though he's just following orders. And once again, the question of who was in charge when those orders were given comes to mind.
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-"Are we gonna talk about what's been up with you lately or not."/"Or not." Oh. Is there something he hasn't told Sam about what happened in the past that's bugging him? Or what? What was Sam not conscious for?
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-Twinkie binge. Yeeeech. Bet Hostess is thrilled with that particular product placement. (And add another instance to the Supernatural Willpower Assistance program, along with maggot-burgers and poisoned pie.) [And yet another stripey tie for Sam! That's three this episode. What the serious hell? Do fans send ties in to the studio and they're using up the stockpile as fan shout-outs??? o.O]
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-"I'd say that it was a very peculiar thing to do." Just a bit.

-Booze, yay!
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-Has Sam got a headache??? o.O
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-Reaper guy again. Is this connected to Death? [Noop. Well, peripherally.]
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-What's Sam hearing? My sound is muddy. [Ah. Heartbeat. From across the street. Rather like a vampire might. Yeah, not a good sign, that.]
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-Sam can smell demons. Ooo. Not good.
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-WTF? Sam hesitated? [Probably because he's getting an unexpected rush of thirst for a demon smoothie and is disturbed by it. Or the heartbeat he's been hearing just unexpectedly dropped off the soundtrack and he's wondering where it went. *nods* Or something.]

-Just had to note that Sam's hair is particularly rockin' and not even slightly like Queen Elizabeth's or my mom's. Much. *pats the irrepressible Sam-hair*
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-Eyes on knife. Nice visual. Ahhh. Blood. Crap. Sam, no...
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-"Let's crack her open. What's the worst that could happen, right?" Sure. Demon briefcase. Why the hell not? *facepalm* I've gamed with people with that attitude. They are very fast at making up new characters and pissing off party members. Although with the whole being vessels thing, Sam and Dean are likely to get resurrected by one side or another if anything goes wrong anyway, right, so what the hell? Go ahead, boys! Be impulsive and curious around demonic briefcases! Gaaaah. *headdesk*
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-[Ooo. I missed that it had symbols on the locks! That's nifty! I want one! \o/ Also... is that Enochian, or unnamed demon language? That center dial looks like the Enochian sigil that looks like a Greek omega character... Do both languages use the same symbol set? Or is there just the one language. *ponders*]
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-Wow! Hi! Angel? Human soul. Wow. Bright. Also, add another magic item ...uh... *shrug* magic item to the boys' list; one briefcase that can hold a human soul. I can think of a few scary situations where that might be useful that I hope never ever come up. o.O
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-Castiel's got fast food. Does he even have money? Did he go to the drive-through? Or did he just randomly snake someone's take-out? These are questions which must be answered, dammit! [And that's totally a Sausage McMuffin. I think.]
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-Hunger, oh crap FAMINE!!! The one Horseman I wasn't expecting. The Horseman that landed when Sam and Dean where apart had the signs of being Pestilence, War's already up, and Death has hypothetically slaughtered most of the southwest of North America by now, although I doubt it. Famine's the last of the team... What the heck is Lucifer up to and where is he?

-Also, yay! A plot twist I didn't see coming! \o/

-"Everyone seems to be starving for something." Sam for blood, Castiel for food (o.O)... what's Dean starving for? Not food or sex...

-Aw, Jimmy!!! \o/ He's still in there!! He survived Raphael! And he can influence Castiel's behaviour if sufficiently driven to. Aw. I'm all smiley that Jimmy's still around in there now. :-D

-"And then will come Famine, riding on a black steed." Ooo, car time! SUVs? Are they a horse-named vehicle? *bounces* [After much eyestrain, they appear to be some variety of Cadillac Escalade. Aw. I was hoping they might be Broncos. *pouts*]
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-Ring! Gotta get 'em all! If nothing else, they'd make one hell of a set of brass knuckles.
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-OMG IT'S BIGGERSONS!!!! From Bad Day at Black Rock! \o/
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Also, the demon flunkies' collective Men-in Black vibe is rather awesome. *nods*


-Oooo! Framing! Wall thingy! [Alright, to add comprehensibility there, have a cap:
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See, this is a nifty shot, even though it whips past in less than a second, because the people are all visually trapped. It echoes their imminent doom and adds an almost subliminal level of claustrophobic inevitability to what's about to happen. Very cool shot. Also, cool re-use of hotel wall-separator thing. *nods*]

-Oh dear. Famine at the Biggerson's. Chalk up a whole bunch food items more to the Supernatural Willpower Assistance program. Fries particularly. Yeeeeech. :-P

-Jeezaroonie, this guy brings the creepy.
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-Ah, Famine eats souls, and has to bulk up before the big push. Which might also explain where Death and Pestilence are. Training. Eeek...

-Wait, when did the demon snag Sam's hotel key, and why has he not noticed it's missing? [Sometime in the fight, I'd guess. Or maybe before the demon breaks free. Hard to say.]
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-(Hey, eilonwy! Spiky clock, left hand side!)
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Yeah, the flunkies are giving me the feeling of kind of a cross between Men in Black and Matrix Agents, although the Matrix thing may be coming to mind because this guy reminds me of a bald Neo.
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-Duuuuuude. Famine can eat demons. O.o Oooo. So that's, what. Like a human soul, charbroiled? Also must be extra tough to tell your Boss you failed the mission when you know he might literally eat your soul.

-"Yeff." Heheeheeee.
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-HA! Dean's still got War's ring and he keeps it in a random pocket of his coat. HAHAHAAH! That's like using Igwilv's Magic Lanthorn just to light up the loot in your bag of holding! Sorry, another gamer geek reference. Seriously, keeping War's ring in anything less than a curse box is a total sign of characters having access to too many magic items. Not that they use them, dammit. Or at least not yet. Hmm... *ponders*
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-Sam's really not doing so hot.
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-"I'm an angel, I can stop anytime I want." Hahahaha. I have so much glee for Jimmy being able to over-power Castiel, even though it's due to Horseman influence. It bodes things... hm... *ponders*

-Lock down Sam. Ouch. Yeah.
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-Okay, I appreciate this is a really rough situation for everyone involved, and it's regrettable that it's necessary at all, but seriously, Dean, do you even know your brother? You know how to pick handcuffs with a paperclip or a car antenna, and since you are an awesome big brother, I'm sure you've taught Sam how to do the same before he hit puberty. Sam has access to at least two, if not many more methods of picking those cuffs if he gets out of control, just from what he's wearing, (not to mention there's not even any need to pick the cuffs, just unscrew the u-bend on the pipe and off he goes). Not only does Show need a bondage effective restraint consultant, the Winchesters need one too. Strip Sam naked and wrap him head to toe in duct tape. It's the only way. Never mind what the slashers will say. Pragmatism in the face of potential disaster. Buuuut I guess they were out of duct tape (the horrors!) and really, that takes time, and no one's thought of the obvious, "blip Sam over to Bobby's and stuff him in the apocalypse bunker" because Dean's too busy with the 'OMG Sam's craving demon blood and I must chain him up in a hotel bathroom now' running at mach 9 through his head, and Castiel's jonesing for his next burger fix and would probably hit every burger joint between there and North Dakota anyway and give Sam many chances to pick up a demon's scent, and no one's bothered calling Bobby yet, so as a result ineffectual chaining of Sam in a hotel bathroom is the go to plan of the evening. *handwaves*
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-Also, I think I've read this fic. It doesn't end well... o.O

-Oooo. Plus a wardrobe in front of the door for a little touchback to "Nightmare". Very cool.
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-Aw, the coroner. Aw. Booze not so yay, I'm guessing. :-(

-I like Marty! Is he dead soon too?
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-"It's Famine." Heee! Castiel's freaking the mundanes again! \o/
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-Ohhhhh. Castiel can feel souls. Ohhh.*flappy hands* Also, another thing for the wall with angel mind-reading and Jesse etc.
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-OMG Is Sam gonna start hallucinating?
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-"These make me very happy." Oooo dear. Burgers in the low hundreds. It makes him happy. Not in a couple hours or so they won't. o.O Although given the sheer mass involved, perhaps there's some teleportation involved in the digestion process. Yeeaaaaach. :-P
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-Dean. Well-adjusted. Hahahahahahaha. Right. What the hell is up with Dean anyway? Hey, Marty was looking pretty balanced too. *eyes suspiciously*

-Oh shit. Helloooo lunch!
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-Oh Sam. Crap. That's not going to go away when they get the Horseman dealt with. O.O
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-"Wait your turn." Crapcrapcrapcrapcrapcraaaaaaaaaaap! And now we see the reason Famine's puttering around in whereverthehell USA. To undo Sam's insta-detox. I think. Maybe?
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-Castiel going over burger wrappers and looking so bereft. Aw. Hee, but aw.
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-You know Dean, sending someone who is being effected by Famine directly into his presence is not exactly wise. The wiser plan would be to get Castiel to 'port you on your own into the building, and you go cut off Famine's hand. Although really, I doubt that would work either. Is it too late to nuke the site from orbit?

-Aaaaaand meanwhile back at Biggerson's, Kripke gets to kill someone in a fry vat. I bet he's giddy. *pats Kripke* The TWoP dragon's gonna be comatose at the end of the recap for this. And also put another strike on the Supernatural Willpower Assistance program for deep-fried foods in general. And blooming onions.
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-CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!! I warned you, Dean! I warned you! Don't send a vulnerable team member into the epicenter of the effect, it will not go well. Yeeeeeech! Poor Castiel!
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-Dean's captured! [Why did he bring a shotgun? Do they not still have the Colt, or did Lucifer do something do it? Ah. When Lucifer threw Dean and the Colt into the tree, the firing pin probably misaligned or something and it's back at Bobby's for fixing again. And then it all got back-burnered due to subsequent grief and things, so it's not ready yet. Or something. I mean it may be a gun that can kill anything, but it's still a first-generation revolver, and it's mechanical malfunction rate alone should be horrific. *nods*]

-Commercials: So, Cas is being overpowered by Horseman-influenced Jimmy, Sam has been pushed off the bloodmobile which will have consequences no matter what happens to Famine, and Famine has Dean. OMG this is almost traumatizing! That'll learn me to go into a pre-hiatus episode expecting crack. ALSO! The vessel can overpower an inhabiting angel if under the influence of a Horseman (or a Horseman's Ring??) Good to know. In case that's useful or something at some point in the future. Or something. *ponders* But Dean's immune to Famine for some reason. *ponders again some more*

-Oh Castiel's little helpless face. OMG.
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-"It comes from the soul." If Famine says Dean's got no soul he's fulla crap. Just saying that now.

-"I'd like to think it's because of my strength of character." Oh Dean.
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-Eeek! O.O
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[In the soundtrack, when Famine's touching Dean, there's a sound like... Hm. Like a large crowd cheering repeatedly, very far away... I don't know what to make of that. But I think it's frigging fascinating.]

-"That's one deep dark nothing you got there Dean." Fullacrapfullacrapfullacraaaaaap! O.O

-"Oh you're so fulla crap!" HAhahahaha! *collapses laughing* DEAN AGREES WITH ME!!! \o/
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-"You're not hungry because inside you're already dead." [And man do I ever love that the soundtrack goes utterly quiet there.] Dead inside. Broken. Not no soul. Is different. Still, oh Dean. Although if being dead inside makes you immune to a Horseman, maybe it's not all bad. Dean's just broken. We knew that years ago. [Although, there's a sort of parallelism at work here. War talked to Sam about the rage and bloodbloodblood thoughts, Famine talked to Dean about his emptiness. Hm. Interesting things are afoot, maybe. *blithers incomprehensibly*]

-And then Sam shows up and Dean breaks a little more. Oh boys.
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-"Sammy, no!" The broken "Sammy" count from Dean is going through roof in the last two episodes.

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-The exception that proves the rule, eh? Oh dear.

-OMG Dean's faaaace!
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-"Cut their throats." Jeez, it sucks to be a demon flunky. Love the Matrix-Agent-like glance at each other they do.
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-And another "Sammy, no!" Oh poor Dean! \o/

-YEAH!!! REMOVE THE SUPPLY! *beats on things* This is the demon blood addiction equivalent of pouring all the booze down the sink! GOOD FOR YOU, SAMMY!!! \o/ (Also, if he drained both demons that came after him, and he only drained one to kill Lillith... oooo nelly. o.O)
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-And Sam says "No." *applause* Team Free Will, yeah?

-Hm. Sam's power doesn't work on Horsemen. Good to know.

-Ooo! Burn out the demons he just ate! Ooo. Which seriously is probably doing them a favour. o.O

-HOLY SHIT, SAM KILLED A HORSEMAN????? O.O Or did he? Did he?? Or just incapacitated? His power over Jimmy and subsequently Castiel was ended there... I... have to wait for watching with a pause button. [Still not sure. Eeeeek! O.O]

-Oh Dean. Oh.
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-Sam's back in the Apocalypse bunker. Bet that was an interesting conversation with Bobby who is conspicuously absent and really I wouldn't blame him. Sam didn't exactly dry out last time, did he? He got let out. This might not go so well.

-Oh Dean again some more. Gahhhhh. And Famine though Dean being broken was news?
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-Castiel standing guard on Sam, oh. Oh, oh, oh. There's a missing scene there, I think.
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-Dean...? Dean? Um. O.O [Right. Show of hands. Who got totally panicky that Dean was gonna chuck it in and say 'yes' to Michael right there? Come on, someone else besides me? Anyone? Ah well. In lieu of transcribing the giant scrawls of 'OMG Noooooooooooo!' in my notes, have a bunch of screencaps]
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-*koff* However, on the practical side of things, who exactly is monitoring prayers while God's out? Also, Dean? *points in Castiel's direction* that's help. Go talk to it. He pulled you out of Hell, if there's a bit of you that got left behind (held hostage?) he's a good one to start asking about it. Or if this is something that goes back further [like maybe to 1978 and prenatally o.O], and not from Hell, he might be able to say. Plus, he senses souls and should maybe be able to tell you something. Like a CAT scan. Plus... Oh Dean.

-"I need some help, please." Oh god. This guy. Just... gah. *is broken*
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Right. So, once Sam sweats out the demon blood DTs, they're all gonna talk to Bobby, get called idjits and get their heads screwed on straight, right? 'Cause he's help too. Team Free Will: It's a mutual badass support society. *nods*





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claudiapriscus From: claudiapriscus Date: February 16th, 2010 01:35 am (UTC) (Link)
>>>Who got totally panicky that Dean was gonna chuck it in and say 'yes' to Michael right there?

I didn't, though it would have made sense to. And would have been one HELL of a cliffhanger.

in fact, at that point I was half expecting....something worse. Like, the big heartfelt prayer followed by God showing up and rubbing's dean face into the mud. Or something. OK, I'm exaggerating here, but the general feeling was waiting for the even worse angst-revelation.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2010 07:13 am (UTC) (Link)
I didn't, though it would have made sense to. And would have been one HELL of a cliffhanger.

I know. Cliffhanger anticipatory trauma. Good grief this hiatus would have been loud if they'd done that. I don't think, in retrospect, that they had built up enough towards it yet.

Like, the big heartfelt prayer followed by God showing up and rubbing's dean face into the mud.

I really hope if God ever shows up, s/he's not a total jerk.
claudiapriscus From: claudiapriscus Date: February 16th, 2010 07:17 am (UTC) (Link)
Me too. I just feel that sometimes, the show has taken the angst to such extremes that it's bordering on parody at times. And so I'm always waiting for that shoe to drop, the one that will carry it on right through drama into the absurd.
percysowner From: percysowner Date: February 16th, 2010 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)
and Death has hypothetically slaughtered most of the southwest of North America by now, although I doubt it.

Actually, I think Death is riding herd on the Reapers. Tessa was like white on rice when Dean was close to death. He was still on the ventilator breathing and she was trying to get him out the door and over to the other side or wherever the heck human souls go. Now Twinky guy and the Doctor have their souls lying around just waiting to be fed to a horseman. I think that was why Lucifer had to raise Death before Famine, to control the Reapers.

I'm not sure Pestilence has shown up yet. It had in The End, I think because the Croatoan virus was going strong, but it hasn't made and appearance yet. To complicate things even more, people on lj, who know more about the Bible than I do, say that at one time the other horseman was Conquest, not Pestilence and we have no idea which version Kripke is going to go with.

I was really proud of Sam in this episode. He couldn't resist his craving when being offered room service, but once he got to the diner, he totally resisted. He could have taken the other demons and become even more powerful, but he shoots his load again and takes out Famine.

Oh, if you do watch this with pause on, please let us know what you see happened to Famine. Most of the Internet can't figure it out. He's sort of here one minute, gone the next with no explanation and no ring left behind, or at least no ring shown left behind. I think the director got involved in BadAss Sam and kind of forgot to include exactly what happened to Famine, but I don't think he is dead. I think Sam would have had to have taken in a lot more power to kill Famine if Famine can be killed at all.

caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2010 07:21 am (UTC) (Link)
I think that was why Lucifer had to raise Death before Famine, to control the Reapers.

Oooo! Very good thought! Nifty indeed!

I'm not sure Pestilence has shown up yet.

I think s/he has, because I've been reading bits of the Book of Revelation since the end of season 4 (o.O) and the signs that are going on where Sam is, when he and Dean are seperated i 5.03 correspond to the ones listed for Pestilence/Conquest. (I think. I am not an expert on these things.) I think they;ll go with Pestilence over Conquest because they do have the Croatoan Virus in the offing.

Oh, if you do watch this with pause on, please let us know what you see happened to Famine

After scrolling through my f-list from skip=135, I see what you mean there. I'll see if I can give it a good solid watch sometime during the hiatus, but if they didn't put visual detail in, it won't be there to see. :-/ It might just be down to interpretation. Parts of this episode are still percolating in my back-brain as to significance and so forth.
malevolent73 From: malevolent73 Date: February 16th, 2010 04:47 am (UTC) (Link)
The beginning was SO funny (not the very beginning, that was gross), and I was laughing so damn much, then it got cra. zy. Great episode though. I'm guessing Dean is hiding whatever it was Michael said to him last week or that he even had a conversation with Michael in the first place.

Freaking hiatus.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2010 07:22 am (UTC) (Link)
Hm! Good point! Sam was (temporarily) dead before Michael showed up, wasn't he? Oooo, I think you nailed it there!
blackcat333_99 From: blackcat333_99 Date: February 16th, 2010 05:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Dean...? Dean? Um. O.O [Right. Show of hands. Who got totally panicky that Dean was gonna chuck it in and say 'yes' to Michael right there? Come on, someone else besides me?

I uhhh.... maybe got a little nervous right there, until I remembered that this is too far from the end of the season for it to happen just yet, but maybe he's begun *thinking* it even if he can't force the word out yet...

And then I realized that this the athiest in a foxhole praying, with nowhere to run. Oh DEAN.

Speaking of prayers... I find it interesting to keep in mind that sometimes the answer to a prayer is No. And sometimes it is Not Now.

And sometimes God works in mysterious ways.

Hmm.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2010 07:32 am (UTC) (Link)
I uhhh.... maybe got a little nervous right there, until I remembered that this is too far from the end of the season for it to happen just yet, but maybe he's begun *thinking* it even if he can't force the word out yet...

And I still have a sneaking thought lurking in the back of my mind that even despite 5.13's events, if Dean says yes, Zachariah will show up and go "Great! Now let's go find your Grace, Michael."

And then I realized that this the athiest in a foxhole praying, with nowhere to run. Oh DEAN.

Desperation. His family has been undermined, both in the present (Sam's fighting the blood again) and in the past (Mary was a hunter, he and Sam were destined to be born), even to its beginnings (John and Mary were pushed together by cherubs).

Speaking of prayers... I find it interesting to keep in mind that sometimes the answer to a prayer is No. And sometimes it is Not Now.

And sometimes God works in mysterious ways.


I think in many cases and particularly this one, the answer to most prayers is already present and available. It's just a matter of having the clarity of thought to see it.

This episode is still percolating. It's going to be an interesting hiatus.
irismay42 From: irismay42 Date: February 16th, 2010 12:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm hoping a dried-out Sammy - and dried-out by choice and willpower this time - will be the help Dean gets.

Oh and no, you were definitely NOT the only one who thought Dean was going to say 'yes' to Michael. I also thought for one horrible moment that Famine meant Dean had come back from Hell with no soul!

Oh and Agent Cliff? Possibly Jimmy Cliff - reggae-type-person like Bob Marley???
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2010 03:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm hoping a dried-out Sammy - and dried-out by choice and willpower this time - will be the help Dean gets.

A mutual helping situation would be fantastic.

I also thought for one horrible moment that Famine meant Dean had come back from Hell with no soul!

Me too, hence the "Fulla crap!" litany. ;-D

Oh and Agent Cliff? Possibly Jimmy Cliff - reggae-type-person like Bob Marley???

Possible, though reggae is branching out a bit for Dean.
sams1ra From: sams1ra Date: February 16th, 2010 03:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh. Is there something he hasn't told Sam about what happened in the past that's bugging him? Or what? What was Sam not conscious for?
I don't believe Dean'd told Sam about what happened in the mental hospital. Talking to that doc was actually admitting stuff to himself. Like knowing how he even gets up in the morning and having too much weight on his shoulder. When the ep. ended, he told Sam to just bury it - he didn't tell him it's killing him from the inside...

Considering the theme of the ep. was love and a rouge cupid, when I first saw that dead guy with the ginormous belly I totally flinched and prayed Show didn't go all mpreg... *shudders*

Maybe they can use the magic briefcase to bring that part of Dean's soul that's still in Hell? Cuz come on, something's up here. Alastair said he wasn't whole, and now it's mentioned again. I say wth.

So, Dean's got War's ring, but not his own! \0/

Right. Show of hands. Who got totally panicky that Dean was gonna chuck it in and say 'yes' to Michael right there? Come on, someone else besides me? Anyone? *raises both hands*

Finally, *points at icon*
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2010 04:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't believe Dean'd told Sam about what happened in the mental hospital.

Another awesome point. Someone upthread pointed out the Sam was dead before Michael showed up in the past, so how much exact detail Dean told him about that is unknown, and I somehow doubt Dean will be talking about what Famine said to him voluntarily, so yeah. Dean's doing his usual repress and deny, and it's too much for that coping mechanism to handle by a very long shot.

Maybe they can use the magic briefcase to bring that part of Dean's soul that's still in Hell? Cuz come on, something's up here. Alastair said he wasn't whole, and now it's mentioned again. I say wth.

It's a very useful item under the circumstances, but they have a lot of useful items rattling around in the trunk (or Dean's pockets \o/) that they aren't using.

So, Dean's got War's ring, but not his own! \0/

Yeah... hm. Which episode did his accessories change in? It slipped past me.
izhilzha From: izhilzha Date: February 20th, 2010 06:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Dean hasn't worn his ring since Changing Channels (I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure that was the first time he didn't have it on and he hasn't worn it since).
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 20th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Something else to track down over the hiatus maybe.
ohioala19 From: ohioala19 Date: February 16th, 2010 06:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
I completely thought Dean was going to say yes in that last scene too, i was literally holding my breath and thinking no, no, no, don't do it. Man he broke my heart there.

Did anyone else think Dean was affected by famine, I mean in season 4 he confessed that he wished he could feel nothing at all more than anything and if that was his deepest desire maybe famine magnified his huger to feel empty if that makes sense.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 17th, 2010 05:21 am (UTC) (Link)
Man he broke my heart there.

I think that scene broke a lot of people.

Did anyone else think Dean was affected by famine, I mean in season 4 he confessed that he wished he could feel nothing at all more than anything and if that was his deepest desire maybe famine magnified his huger to feel empty if that makes sense.

I think I follow you. Sort of amplified his hunger for hopelessness? That's a scary thought. o.O
ciaranbochna From: ciaranbochna Date: February 16th, 2010 10:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
I told J that night I might not survive Jensen this season. That, and the relating to.. You definitely aren't the only one who was nervous about Dean saying yes though. But I have faith in Kripke, I think. I am also with you on Dean talking to Cas--he is right there for cripes sake, go!! Mind you asking for help not being a strong suit. We were also wondering what happened with Famine, so if you find out with the magic button of pause, let me know;)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 17th, 2010 05:23 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm really not sure a close watch will turn up any new facts. I did try applying logic to the situation earlier, but that got painful quick.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 17th, 2010 01:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Um. Hi. De-lurking to say could the Cliff reference possibly be Cliff Burton of Metallica?

Also, I love reading your reviews. I have to rewatch the episodes several times to catch the details that you point out (not that im complaining.) XD

~Rhiannon
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 17th, 2010 03:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
It could be. Dean usually goes with last names, but he doesn't usually delve into reggae either, so it's entirely possible. Thanks for de-lurking, and I'm glad you like the reaction posts. :-D
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