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Picspam Reaction: Supernatural 5.18
WARNING: Contains many variations on the phrase 'smack some sense into'. Just a head's up in case that's a trigger issue for anyone.

Also profanity.

Spoiler and Theorizing Timeline

-Mid November - Assorted possibly conflicting reports in the press lead people everywhere to express opinions and say veiled things regarding the 100th episode, which will be... *does math* 5.18. There's a touchback casting, except it isn't. Which is annoyingly vague.

In dribs and drabs since then but mostly in the past week...

- Title: Point of No Return. Or Point of Know Return, making it a Kansas Ref. Actually, this is Kripke. It's a Kansas ref no matter how it's spelled. (Ahem.

“Your father, he said he needs you; your mother, she said she loves you. Your brothers, they echo the words, how far to the point of know return? Well, how long?”

Well jeez, Kripke.)

-Zachariah's in it, Castiel is in it, Dean's in Heaven's Green Room again, and possibly kidnapping Adam from Heaven??? o.O Considering Adam never actually met Dean, that should make for an interesting conversation. I didn't even put Adam on the Wall, which really I should have. Dead Winchesters don't stay down. Also, Dean's getting backed up against the wall by Castiel again, hopefully in a reversal of the conversation Dean had with Castiel in 4.22 with the 'suck it up and do the right thing' stuff, because that would mean Castiel had found hope or faith or SOMETHING. A puppy. I don't know.

Picspam Reaction, with moderate Meta, speculation and slight moments of crack for Supernatural 5.18 - "Point of No Return"


-Hiding from the THEN by running into the kitchen for water. Not terribly effective *waves hi at Adam*

-Zach got a pink slip? Didn't know that was possible, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Obviously not his grace being taken away, or he'd be a mind-wiped fetus somewhere and his grace would be causing a severe case of unexpected tree somewhere. Maybe an internal demotion and downgrading to something less apocalypse-sensitive. Cherub wrangler perhaps.
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-"It's all they care about upstairs, ain't it? Results, results, results." Heeeee, love the dual layer conversation.
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-"Absolutely- filthy what?" Hahahah. Zachariah's over-sharing a little.
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-Archangel inbound. Ooo. Boss. Wait, Michael's his Boss? Or it seems like it's Michael... hm. Zachariah is Michael's incompetent hench-thing?? That changes things... Requires brain for strategic implications. [Also that archangel whine is a real pain to listen to on headphones.]
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-Flaming eyeballs! It wouldn't be the 100th ep of Supernatural if someone didn't lose an eye. Or several.
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-Ya know, Flaming eyeballs would be an awesome name for a band. Or a shooter... Maybe Sambuca over a peeled grape with a splash of 151 to set on fire?

-"Point of No Return." Not 'know', Aw. Well I'm pretty sure Kripke's referencing Kansas and none of the other several music-related "Point of No Return"s out there, but after referencing Jay-Z last week, I don't know what to expect anymore. Elvis Costello, maybe?

-Dean drinking and packing and writing letters, OMG. [And since we never clearly saw its contents, how many fanfic versions of that letter are we gonna see? Also, holy crap Dean's new(er) watch is hyooooge.]
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-[Trying for a clearer cap of the letter... Meh.]
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(...)I'll be surprised if
(...)But if it does
(...)know that what I'm doing isn't
(...)is better than that
(...)we've run out of it.

(...)Cicero, where I'm going, we don't
(...)know you'll look after her for
(...)you've taken more for the team
than anyone could ever ask, that makes you an honorary Winchester in my book.

[Waitaminute! O.O OMG YOU GUYS!!! I'd been thinking this was a letter to Sam, but it's a letter to Sam and BOBBY! and *cannot type for flailing* DEAN JUST WROTE THAT BOBBY IS AN HONORARY WINCHESTER!!!! I would bet! OMG! The adoption is officially on paper! \o/ Or... Wait... maybe it's to Castiel? Could be...and maybe the her is Lisa? Although the car's in Cicero too. I don't think Dean would want Castiel to take care of the Impala, and really Bobby'd have a hard time maintaining her from the chair, and getting her retro-fitted for hands-only driving would be rather ridiculous. So. that said, DEAN JUST WROTE THAT CASTIEL IS AN HONORARY WINCHESTER!!!! I think. Maybe both. Either way, someone just got officially adopted on paper. WOO! \o/ *koff* anyway...]

(Sam?), you told me once that you pra- (prayed?)
Not sure if that's still true(...)
But if it is, give it one last (try? ...)
Sammy - One Winchester (...)
enough. When it's over (...)

[Gah. Wish I'd got the HQ version from iTunes. Anyone got clearer caps of the letter? Oh who am I kidding. This long after the ep y'all probably have the thing typed up and posted somewhere.]
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-Package going to Bobby. OW. Of course he's sending it all to Bobby's; that's the only fixed address the boys can count on. *flails anxiously* [In an actual moving box, with the checklist for which room it goes in on the side. Considering how much Dean's family has moved around without having an actual home or any interactions with an actual moving company, and that the box is being sent to the closest thing to a home the boys have right now besides the car? Yeah. There's meta in that. Freaking OW, props department. Well done.] *randomly squees about the duct tape* \o/
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-HA! YAY SAM!!! SAM FOUND DEAN! Like Dean found Sam at the end of Season 4. Hopefully this won't be as hurty though? Also, missing scene of Castiel and Sam looking for Dean, yeah?
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-Sam's hair is rather rockin' at the moment, though it's almost long enough that he's gonna need a pony tail to keep it under control.
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-Also, Dean is staying in room 100. Hahahahaha, show.
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-"You're gonna kill yourself, right?" Suicide. OMG. They were implying it, but. Yeah. Well, one way or another, what Dean was planing to do would probably make him stop existing for a long while.

-MUPPET! \o/ Random Jim Henson shoutout!

-"All you've ever done is run away."/"And I was wrong!" OW. *rocks back and forth*

-Bobby's working on something. See? Nothing at all to worry about. He'll have it all fixed before tea. *nods*

-Spiky clock! *
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Not only that, SPIKY CLOCK HALO!
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Whaddaya make of that eilonwy? o.O *babbles randomly about Dean being ambushed by lurking divinity that has always been in the background...* *backs away from the sugar* [But, but it kind of works on a totally made-of-crack level. It's always there, it's always watching. Dean beat the crap out of a spiky clock once and it's still following them around.... HOLY CRAP, IS THE SPIKY CLOCK GOD!??! *backs even further away from the sugar*]

-They gonna fight again? It actually might hurt less than what Dean's saying. *looks for a blankie to hide under*

-Cas! Yay! Doink! Hee! Love Sam and Castiel working together. Rebellious angel beats demon blood any day. *nods*
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-Bobby's place! Throw Dean into the safe room until he gets his head out of his butt gains some rational perspective on the issues he's got over recent developments. *nods* Man, Castiel looks pissed.
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-Michael's like a nuke and the only thing that can kill big L. *nods* Big guns. Tactically, makes sense. Except HELL NO, Dean.

-Written by Jeremy Carver and directed by Phil Sgriccia. Ooo.

-"If Lucifer burns this mother down and I could have done something about it, then that's on me." Dean's epic guilt is getting ahead of itself. Same goes if half the planet gets cacked too. May seem like a more palatable option now, but wait 'til you're living it.
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-"You can't give up, son."/"You're not my father." OW. True, but OW, Dean. Gaaaah, I just want to shake some sense into him because he can't see over his own walls.

-"That's the round I mean to put through my skull." Oh Bobby.
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-"Because I promised you I wouldn't give up!" Bobbeeeeeeee. Oh wow. I've gone misty. *flappy hands*
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-Castiel's got a headache, eek. Angel Radio's gone berserk, that can't be good. I dunno, something about characters who don't often experience or admit to pain making little ouchie noises nails me in odd ways. Like I get conflicted between wanting to wrap them in blankets and feed them soup, and wanting to find what's hurting them and kick its teeth in. Motherly-Agressive?
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-Uh oh. A Cas-napping? o.O WTF?
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-BLASTZONE!!! HOLY FREAKING CRAP!!! OMG Is it? Or did someone lose their grace and that's an insta-life tree trying to sprout? Maybe Zachariah did lose his grace after all??? Either way, ground blorping motions are disturbing as hell. O.o

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[Ground-blorping motions do not cap worth beans, but you know what I'm talking about.]

-Fight! I gotta say, dying did Castiel's combat skills a world of good. Which considering who brought him back.... Ooo. Ponder-worthy indeed. [And none of it is capping worth beans either, sorry. :-(]
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-Castiel blade spin!!! OMG!!! *glee* [*pouts more*]

-Aw, wow. Castiel keeps kicking ass like this and there's not going to be that many angels left. o.O
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-So who's back, and did they come from Hell? No, wait, he was in the credits and the spoilers, it's Adam. Why's Adam in Hell? Or was he? o.O

-Whoever he was, he had the unfortunate timing to get resurrected during the rainy season. Nasty squishy noises and a whole lot of mud coming out of the grave.

-Hi Adam! Don't know if or why you were in Hell, and the whole getting field-cremated by Sam and Dean thing must have made resurrection a giant pain in the ass.
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-ADAM GETS A RIB TATTOO! Eeeee! Better than an alarm clock.
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-Angels warned him about Sam and Dean. Ah. Saves a lot of exposition that, considering he's never met them and didn't know they existed. Thanks, show!

-"Where the hell is Zachariah?" Guessing Zach's handprint's on this kid somewhere. Or if he wasn't yanked out of Hell, maybe he doesn't get a handprint. Hm. Doubt we'll see enough skin to find out either way.

-Prom. Heh. Dean, 3rd base. No matter what, Dean is still Dean.
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-Chosen to save the world, Michael's backup plan. Heeeee! The Heir and the spare.

-Castiel and Dean bitchery. Castiel feels like his faith in God has been for nothing (which it hasn't) and now Dean's giving up when really, Castiel rebelled on the strength of Dean's will and intent to fight what was coming. That's gotta burn.
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-"This has been a really moving family reunion, but I got a thing so-" Non-ghoul Adam has attitude, I like that.
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Adam certainly dresses like a Winchester... although I suspect he's wearing some old clothes the boys left behind at Bobby's back before Stanford, since the clothes he was wearing were coated in grave-mud. Oh, and also burnt from being cremated, which means that the angel who raised him reconstituted his clothes too, which answers that nagging little thing about Dean's clothes in 4.01. Although since Adam's a rush job and not a long-planned thing, his reconstituted clothes were probably chafing in off places as well as being muddy. *nods*

-Working on the power of love. Thanks for the earworm, Dean.
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-"Because we're blood." And to Sam saying that, Dean has this little subtle 'huh' with a teeny little not-happy smirk. I don't know what to make of that. Nothing good, I don't think. Expecting epic hurty shouting, because right now the spikes on Dean's walls are on the inside and outside. :-/

-"I don't have a dad." Which means him and his mom weren't oddly fixated on the few days John Winchester showed up in town to the point that they plastered their house with every photo they ever had of him like massive fangirls, which means the ghouls really did do all that photoshopping! I'm psychic! \o/

-Mom. "She's the one I give a rat's ass about, not you." I like this kid. Can we keep him?
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...Waitaminute. Zachariah's holding his mom hostage? Or...? I'm missing something. [*smacks past-self in head* Yep.]

-These guys' prisoner management techniques don't have such a hot track record (Jimmy)

-...except when Sam isn't sneaking out for 'a refreshing Coke.' Hee. Much more effective.

-"Dewy-eyed bromance." HEEEEE! I really do like Adam. He's sparky.

-"The one thing worse than seeing Dad once a year, was seeing him all year."/"Do you know how full of crap you are?" YES! Call him on it! Even before I could tell Sam to shut up.

-"Drive on down to Wally World?" Really really like Adam. So he's gonna die, right? Badly? Again?

-Oooo. Bunker. Very empty bunker. I only see three or four things in that initial pan that could be used to commit suicide (rather messily :-P) or break out, not counting anything on Dean's person. I'll assume he's been thoroughly searched though.

-Yeah, Castiel isn't too happy with Dean.
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-"Last person that looked at me like that, I got laid." HA! Ah. I see Show has decided to tease the Dean/Cas shippers now.
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-And Dean achieves his aim in making Castiel less likely to try to talk to him calmly and rationally in the near future. Also, telekinetic door slam for the win.
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-Two flight risks in lockdown. Pain in the ass isn't it. 'Spose there must be a good reason not to lock them both in the panic room? Maybe Dean would turn Adam into a set of lockpicks? Yeah. *handwaves*

-"The kid's not taking a bullet for me." Oh Dean. Really, someone needs to smack sense into you. Not that Adam should take the bullet, but that you've apparently given up on trying to jam the gun. Idjit. *cuffs the back of Dean's head*
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-Aw. Listing off the dead. Missing quite a few, like all the males except for John, but Dean's like that, I'm guessing. The death of women hits him harder because of the whole mom thing, or something. I'm sure there are several psychological analysis's of Dean out there to cover this. Also, he doesn't list the two people they recently saw in Heaven, which I find interesting. Anyway, nice touch for 100th episode.

-"I'm tired, man." Same posture, pose, many of same words from Croatoan. Very nifty parallelism.
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-"Stop trying to sacrifice yourself for a change?". Hey... That's what the Trickster(Gabriel) said in Mystery Spot isn't it? He said it to Sam, now Sam's saying it to Dean. Hm... bears pondering that does...

-"I don't believe in you." OW. "Angry, self righteous..." OWWWWWWWWWWWW. Obviously this will be fixed, somehow eventually, but OWWWWWWWWWWW!

-"When Satan takes you over, there's gotta be somebody there to fight him." Really. Sense, needs some smacking into. Drag him upstairs and let Bobby yell at him, although the 'here's the bullet I haven't been using' speech doesn't seem to have had much effect.

-OMG, OW Dean. Ow. *huddles up and rocks back and forth for most of the conversation*

-Oh my. Conversation time, round two, coming up.

-Angel banishing sigil??? You sent Castiel to the cornfield?? You, YOU BASTARD!! You clever absolute bastard. Even without actual sharp objects (and there were thumbtacks on that corkboard, which would take some determined gouging) there's plenty of options for bloodletting in the room and on Dean's person. [Or the shattered lightbulb from the lamp on the floor I missed on the first watch because I saw the tipped chair and was trying to get images of Dean hanging himself out of my head. :-P. I am occasionally blind to the obvious.] Wow. That was unexpected. When Dean Winchester is bound and determined to throw himself in front of a speeding fate-bus for the sake of half of humanity, he doesn't mess around.

[Oh, hey! Clear view of one activating. Nifty.]

-He changed his mind about what jacket to sneak out in? [Doesn't cap well. He picks one up, then drops it and picks up another.]

-Random: Oh hey, Bobby's basement has an unlocked storm door. Nice and secure, that. * adds to mental map*

-Still, again some more, Dean you BASTARD! And yet I'm clinging to the hope that Dean said all that stuff to Sam so Castiel would be the only one left to come down to try and talk to him, because he knew he could send Castiel away and escape. He hasn't really given up on Sam, he's just being sneaky and... just... Yeah, I'm not buying it either. *wants to shake sense into Dean. Again. Some more.*

-"Blown to Oz." Hee. Castiel surrounded by the Lollipop Guild. Looking vexed. *smacks self in head* No. Focus.

-"Cuff him to your chair." Pft. That wheelchair is the type made to come apart easily for transport. Adam isn't Dean though. Dean can pick a pair of handcuffs with a paperclip, so he'd be gone before the door finished closing. Cuffing Dean to Bobby would be helpful right now though maybe Bobby could verbally smack some sense into him. If they can find Dean. Although Adam could use some sense too.

-Dreaming!! Uh oh.

-SO!!! Zachariah is keeping Adam from having any Heaven memories of his mom. I'd like to repeat that: ZACHARIAH IS KEEPING ADAM FROM HAVING HEAVEN-MEMORIES OF HIS MOM. *points at the slant Sam's memories had in 5.16, points back at Zachariah, points to the 'I don't believe in you' situation* Is there any doubt at all that Zachariah had his thumb on Sam's memory scales in 4.16??? Not for me!! Proof, I say! Bwahahahaha! \o/

-Wah? Erotically? o.O Ah. Zachariah's been reading Becky's fanfic. Which is probably now being posted from Chuck's IP address, so some confusion is understandable. Anyway, Zachariah's skeevy and desperate so he'll use anything to try and put Adam off cooperating with Sam and Dean. *handwaves*

-'Save each other's sweet bacon'? Lordy. How is this sleazy guy an angel? Ever?

-Ooo. Nice pupil dilation, and entirely possible with zero special effects! Take a mirror, close your eyes for a few minutes, then open them and watch what your pupils do in the mirror. Nature's special effects, entirely free. Yay for budget savings! \o/

-Dean turning himself in to the fringe group guy. Yay for continuity! \o/ Not so yay for the lack of sense on Dean's part. [Also continuity, El Sol and Schultz beer signs in the windows, nice. *nods*]

-"You pray too loud." Ooo, Castiel found Dean. Wiretap on the Angel network? Yay Castiel! \o/

-"I rebelled for this??" YEAH! KICK HIS ASS, CASTIEL! I mean, I love Dean, and normally him getting his ass kicked would not be a source of great yay (much), but in this case, he really needs it. Really. His needle's skipping a groove and something needs to shake him out of it and get him to open his frigging eyes and see past the wall he's built up. Mixed metaphor. Ow. Sorry. But seriously, the last time Dean got like this was in Lucifer Rising, and Bobby did yell him most of the way out of it, I think, before Zachariah benched Dean. But Bobby yelling and Sam talking isn't denting Dean's wall. Something has to.

-Nice hang time from that kick. *winces* HEY! DEAN'S GETTING THROWN INTO WALLS [chain link fences, whatever, it's totally a wall *handwaves*]! WHAT DAY IS IT?? \o/

-"Do it." God, Dean. [And on headphones, that undertone of pleading rather than challenge in Dean's voice comes through like a damn knife.] Oof. And Castiel pauses and- Oof. These guys, I swear.

-Ah, and Adam got angel-napped. Damn it, Bobby needs to put up some selective Enochian warding glyphs or something. His place is Swiss cheese as far as defense vs usurping angels. Although really it's a good thing Zachariah and his team are bone-stupid or they'd have just camped out at Bobby's until Sam and Dean showed up. Hm. Maybe Bobby has some kind of 'you don't know the Winchesters hang out here unless I want you to know' Jedi mind-trick thing versus angels. What? Bobby's totally a Jedi. Or something. Or Zachariah is an idiot. Either way works. *handwaves*

-"What the hell happened to him?"/"Me." Hee. Such boys.

-Green Room, burgers and beer. Adam likes a different brand of beer than Dean, Dean's was El Sol, if I recall correctly. [Margiekussel??? Can't make out the label. Same burgers though.]

-Haaa! Fakeout. Yep, you're bait, Adam. Aw, and he was all set to save the world. He's so very totally a Winchester.

-"Hey, if it's any consolation you happen to be the illegitimate half-brother of the guy we do care about." This is how you jump-start a Winchester. Piss him off. Or rather mess with his Mom and then piss him off some more.

[Hee! Jaw clench!]

-Spitting blood for no apparent reason. Zachariah is nasty. Yeah, power corrupts and all, but Zachariah the type that probably shouldn't get power in the first place. Seriously, who did his psych evaluation?

Although, they do say, when in the land of faerie, never eat the food... There's an AU... Zachariah and pals actually have nothing to do with Heaven et al, and are part of the Unseelie court... *ponders and leaves the bunny to wander*

-Hehehe. Dean, chained to a bed. Hm. A little too fully clothed for fan-service. *snerk* Practically, I really do wonder why Dean and Sam use handcuffs on each other when one is trying to prevent the other from running off and doing something stupid. They both know they know how to pick them with random found objects.

-'Don't piss off the nerd angels.' For they have repressed issues and will kick your ass all over an alley. Also, they're not too keen on betraying everything they are for someone who gives up. *nods*

-Could it be? Did Castiel actually knock some sense into Dean? o.O ...no. Damn.

-*goes OW lots*

-"You're still my big brother" Aw Sammeeeeeee! \o/ And lo, the apocalypse will be averted because Michael's Vessel gave Lucifer's vessel the last of the Lucky Charms, and Lucifer's vessel gave him the toy. Seriously, I've been saying it for years. *beams*

-Hee! Cool transition.
Castiel's getting better at this I think.

-Van Nuys, California. Hey... is that an actual palm tree? They might actually have shot this little segment in California. Wow. Random. Although i guess pilot shot there, 100th ep, back to the beginning. Plus everyone was in town for that con, right?

[Shadow's in the right place I think, but both trees are in an easy enough location to matte or CGI in... And those really look like standard ubiquitous BC backlot blackberry thickets... arg. No idea.]

-Warehouse! Like the Trickster! Ha!!! That rocks!

-Oh crap. You guys, Castiel took his tie off. I... I have no idea what that means or implies but I'm suddenly really freaked. O.O

-"Won't have to watch you fail." OW Castiel. Ow. Ow for everyone. *rocks back and forth*

-"I don't have the same faith in you Sam does." OW. Also, very excellent. Continuing the smacking sense into Dean verbally, since throwing him around an alley didn't really help. Something has to get through to Dean, and for once, he looks like he's listening.

-Box-cutter? He's going up against five angels with a breakaway dollar store box-cutter? Of course he can totally do it because he's just that badass, but... Ah. Quick blood-letting utensil. *nods* This fight could get reeeeally messy.

-Ooo. Combaaaaat! [Oooo. And in the quiet in-between parts, there's angel-whisperings. Castiel having to kill his former comrades sucks, because all they're doing is serving a usurper, and just sort of foot-soldiers. Castiel chose to follow God, or what he thinks God would want in absentia. These other angels are following orders, but they have to know that following them is going to destroy over half of God's favorite creation, so.... gah. I have no idea. Seems to me like Zachariah and whoever his boss is (not convinced it's Michael because really, archangel all seem to land the same way) are abusing the authority (and free will, since they are making their own decisions) they've been granted to give what in essence are unlawful orders to beings who in the majority do not realize they have free will to resist it, or do not exercise that free will because they think they will Fall. ...You know, there is a whole whackload of can-of-worms Meta in there. Maybe some other time by someone who actually has some idea what they're talking about, and not in mid-combat-scene. Moving on.]

-Ack! Surrounded!

-Woo! Shirt-ripping! O.O



-CASTIEL!!! What the- What the hell does that do?? I mean, for the other angels it knocks them back for a while and makes them go 'way, but, what happens to the one at the epicenter??? Does he, like, fission out in all directions like a blast-wave? O.O Also, Castiel's really quick and tidy at cutting himself. Not even a mirror handy and no blood on the shirt. I freely admit, I did not see that ploy coming at all. Well played. Also also, added bonus of Castiel not having to kill everyone. \o/

-Sam lets Dean go into the warehouse solo. There's faith. Right there.

-"You came for me."/"Yeah, well, you're family." Oh Dean.

-Yeah! Sam with the backstab! *ponders Sam's modifiers to stealth, what with the rib tattoo and all*

-*sigh* Sam. One of these hiatuses, you have got to get better at hand-to-hand. Spar with Dean or something.

-And here comes more pain-related blackmail. *shakes head at Zachariah* Not subtle.

-"The answer is yes." NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! NO NO NO NO NO!!!! O.O Dammit, Dean, so much for terms. Negotiate, at least!!!

-["Do I look like I'm lying." Again. Hm. Dean says this frequently.]

-Something... Sam... Is Sam doing something? [I'm just gonna go cap happy here, and note that Dean's eyes are doing a heck of a lot of introspective darting around when they aren't looking at Sam.]

[...and then focus and resolve....]

[..leading to a ghost of a smile, then-]


[Wink. A 'Don't worry Sammy, I've got everything under control' wink. But from the eye darting Dean was doing just before... things may not have been as under control as it seems. Or was it? There's the weapon. But the way he looked... Aaaack. DEAN NEEDS TO STOP SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF ME RETROACTIVELY. *shivers*]

-Conditions! Kill Zachariah! Yay! He's a scuzzbucket! And Dean's totally right. Zach is a tool that whoever's usurping the show upstairs is using to keep distanced from the whole situation. Situation successfully resolved, tool becomes liability.

-Expendable! Exactly! Damn straight. I LOVE SMART!STRATEGIC DEAN!!!! \o/

-(Ooo! Nice holdout skill.)
YESSSSSSS! \o/ Seriously! Hell yes. Get him into close combat range and gut him like a trout!

Or a spike through the skull works too. *nods*
[...waaaaaitaminute... wasn't it said back in 'Head of a Pin' that only an angel could kill an angel? o.O So, either that implies some hinky things about Dean, or someone (Capital-S Someone?) bent the rules just so Zachariah could be eliminated, and given the kind of angel Zachariah was, I think that bit of rule-bending might get thrown in as a freebie. Or maybe a dual-bloodlined vessel can kill an angel too? Hm. *handwaves until further data presents itself*]

-And now we run. Good thing Michael's as slow as molasses in January or you'd all be screwed.

-OMG Wing-burn. Need to see what his wings looked like. [Cap says... hm. Interesting. They seem to have gaps, and be imprecise, like they were slowly dissolving. Hm... maybe somebody was losing their angel status slowly? Or... hm. Bears more brain. Also, Hanged Man, inverted? Just a bit? My Tarot interpretation is rusty garnered from the web non-existent all of the above, but I seem to recall that the Hanged Man card inverted is something like... ego-assertion, selfishness, lack of insight, being unwilling to take the risk required to achieve a goal, and therefore failing. Kind of suits Zachariah, I think. *leaves the detailed tarot meta for somebody who actually knows tarot*]


-Adam's a Vessel! His eyes aren't burning and he isn't bleeding from the ears! Kinda knew that already, but still. Oh crap.


-Adam! SHIT!!!

[And how much do I randomly love that even though the door's too hot to touch, (and although most of the light was added in post-production, Jensen's still getting lit up with a spotlight that is probably none too chilly to stand in) it's still cold enough in the warehouse for his breath to show up? Yay BC! XD]

-Michael took Adam. Well, hell! O.o I didn't see that coming. The heir and the spare indeed. Hunh. I wonder if there were cherubs involved in John hooking up with Adam's mom? Who knows, if maybe every time John (or Mary) had sex there was a cherub involved. ...That sounds really wrong. 129

-Also, brother vs brother? Who said it was Sam vs Dean? It's Supernatural. Dead characters come back. I really should have had Adam on the Wall. *nods*

-Not Metallicar, of course. Neither of them are going to poop for a week from all the teleporting. Actually Castiel's been doing a lot of teleporting this ep. They both might be constipated right through the Apocalypse, which could prove to be a handy time saver. Nothing hinders saving the world more than inconvenient biology. *nods*

-"But we'll get 'em." Finding Adam and Castiel. Cool. Side-quest! \o/ I think they're both okay, or I'd be more worried. Well, Adam might be irrevocably screwed. And the four angels Castiel banished might each have separate bits of him they're keeping from reconstituting... eek.

-"So." So, conversation in the car time. *prepares for more ow*

-["I saw your eyes. You were totally rockin the 'yes' back there." Yeah. *shivers again some more*]

-"'This stupid sonofabitch brought me here.'" Hee! "Didn't wanna let you down." *FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL*

-"Snot-nosed kid I've had to keep on the straight and narrow." Yep. Considering Dean was going to say yes, Zachariah totally screwed it up there. Putting Sam (and Adam) in pain sent Dean back to the "protect Sammy" place, got him out of his own head and made him pause long enough to finally, FINALLY, get Dean to smack some sense into his own damn self. Because in the end, that's the only person who could. \o/

-"If you're grown up enough to find faith in me, least I can do is return the favor." Faith. *nods* Faith in family.

-"Screw destiny, we're doing this our way." YEAH!!! Which considering how much of a fan I am of fate and destiny usually... Show... *smiling headshake* Make me cheer for the death of an angel (admittedly a skeezy angel working to deliberately bring about the Apocalypse), make me glad fate might get subverted... This show.

So, what do you all think? If Adam said yes, which apparently he did, then Michael's embodied in a bloodline-compatible vessel, and has angel-proofing on his vessel's ribs. He could just locate Lucifer and head in for a sneak attack right now while Lucifer's interim vessel is getting less hot more structurally impaired by the second. (Although he'd have to get past the acres and acres of demons and defenses big L's no doubt set up. And maybe a Horseman or two, but *handwaves*)

I hear Detroit's nice. (Not a spoiler, just a feeling of impending doom. On the wall.)

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weesta From: weesta Date: April 22nd, 2010 10:49 am (UTC) (Link)
"You're still my big brother" Aw Sammeeeeeee! \o/ And lo, the apocalypse will be averted because Michael's Vessel gave Lucifer's vessel the last of the Lucky Charms, and Lucifer's vessel gave him the toy. Seriously, I've been saying it for years. *beams*

I think you've about summed it up. Awesome! I haven't seen a cap of the letter anywhere, but now I must search for one!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 04:58 am (UTC) (Link)
Someone linked taht there's one here but I haven't had a chance to check it out (and at this point, might not until May. *facepalm*)
feliciakw From: feliciakw Date: April 22nd, 2010 11:38 am (UTC) (Link)
Good recap. I said some of the same precise same things in mine. :-)

I'm still leaning toward Michael setting up (temporary) shop in Dean, simply because Jensen needs that opportunity to play Michael. (Because, you know, "The End" wasn't awesome enough. *cough* Seriously, if he doesn't get at least a nomination for "The End," there is no justice in the industry.)

Also, thanks for filling in parts of the letter. I found a cap somewhere and could only read the parts that were in the section addressed to Sammy. (Oh, Dean.)

And rather than my usual refrain of "Is it Thursday yet?" I can say, "It's Thursday!"
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:00 am (UTC) (Link)
Good recap. I said some of the same precise same things in mine. :-)

Great minds think alike! :-D

Seriously, if he doesn't get at least a nomination for "The End," there is no justice in the industry.

I know. The big awards shows have this stigma against genre shows, although they've been getting better.
lusciniate From: lusciniate Date: April 22nd, 2010 12:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
[Also that archangel whine is a real pain to listen to on headphones.] hee. And here I thought, that it was just a fail on my headphones part since those really love to sometimes “act out”.
On the other hand – this way we can experience a little part of the feeling other characters get, when near is an angel talking. Now I have to wonder if this really is a bad things.

Anyone got clearer caps of the letter? Oh who am I kidding. This long after the ep y'all probably have the thing typed up and posted somewhere.]
http://smilla02.livejournal.com/205956.html#cutid1 I think the best one up at the moment. There in the begining are 3 really, really clear screencaps [About the coments I think no spoilers there and I think it would be hard to get a spoiler there in a topic like this] http://supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=5.18_Point_Of_No_Return#Minutiae aaand Superwiki – a text organised as in the letter with clearly visble places where Dean’s head/hand was in the way.

Not only that, SPIKY CLOCK HALO!
XD I spent a few minutes going around that place to see, if I can freeze the frame so it looks like a halo. Like a perfect halo, not just one that can be “imagined” to be a halo.

Apart from these 3 things - I am so not thinking about the end of the episode, because something [as more time passes] starts to feel more and more off in the way it ended. Or maybe I am just too pesimistical for my own good. But apart from that - once again a brilliant review :) Thanks for that!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:03 am (UTC) (Link)
Now I have to wonder if this really is a bad things.

Part of the in-depth Supernatural experience. :-)

Thanks for the links to the caps. I'll have to check them out!

Like a perfect halo, not just one that can be “imagined” to be a halo.

There's an almost-one, but the ays at the top are too dim. Dean's just too tall. (And I'm guessing they didn't want to make it overt)
anniehow From: anniehow Date: April 22nd, 2010 02:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, we still have to see Pestilence, right?

Cool spotting of the possible tarot with Zach's body... very apt (am slightly disappointed we didn't get six wing burns though... continuity fail, Show!)

Fangirls going mad over reading the letter? Right here: http://anniehow.livejournal.com/111505.html And Jim Beaver tweeted that it wasn't scripted, so the question now is... did Jensen write that, or was it props? Next con it's bound to come up!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, we still have to see Pestilence, right?

Yep! *bounces*

(am slightly disappointed we didn't get six wing burns though... continuity fail, Show!)

Maybe when he got demoted he lost two sets of wings?

Jim Beaver tweeted that it wasn't scripted, so the question now is... did Jensen write that, or was it props?

*FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL* OMG, I was kind of thinking maybe Jensen wrote it, I can see them doing that. Oh. That would be awesome! :-D Thanks for the link, I'll have to check it out when I get some time.
izhilzha From: izhilzha Date: April 22nd, 2010 04:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

....no, plot bunnies, I will not listen to you. *stops ears*
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:07 am (UTC) (Link)
*feeds the bunny a carrot*
irismay42 From: irismay42 Date: April 22nd, 2010 05:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have two theories.

1) The reason Dean didn't take the first jacket when he busted out of the panic room was because, a) it was one of Sammy's horrible cream-coloured ones, and b) because the one he took was the jacket Future!Dean is wearing in The End. Oh yes it is. I can prove it with screencaps. http://irismay42.livejournal.com/32202.html

2) I don't think that was a reflection in Dean's eyes when Zachariah went fizz bang. Dean said YES. If Michael killed Zachariah. Zachariah was summarily killed. And if an angel can only be killed by another angel, then maybe, just maybe, Michael was the one who did the angel-slaying. From inside Dean. Seriously, what better way to sneak up on Lucifer and gank him when he least expects it? Hide out in Dean for a while, let him think he's still in control, then WHAM! Detroit. Lucifer. Blam. Not quite as many millions killed.

Yeah, mad theories all.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:09 am (UTC) (Link)
I can prove it with screencaps.

Oh, cool!

Michael was the one who did the angel-slaying. From inside Dean

Or Michael's been in Dean all along? Just missing his grace? I dunno. We'll have to see how it goes.
tahirire From: tahirire Date: April 22nd, 2010 07:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I would KILL for a friendly practice sparring scene between Sam and Dean. KILL.

LOL @constipation being a time-saver.

The next time we see Adam I REALLY DNW him to be disintegrating like Nick.

Has anyone else bothered to stop and wonder how Nick is related to Sam and Dean? *blink*

Fun thinky-thoughts!! :D

ETA: About the letter - It seems he's calling LISA an honorary Winchester. He talks about being in Cicero and he knows Sam will take care of her for him and she's an honorary Winchester in his book. You can see more with the toxic_caps.

Edited at 2010-04-22 07:54 pm (UTC)
elliemurasaki From: elliemurasaki Date: April 22nd, 2010 07:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
My theory is, he's not. He's like all Azazel's special kids and everyone Azazel made a deal with: he has the ability to be an angelic vessel. He does not have the ability to be an archangelic vessel, but then Dean, Sam, whatshisface Raphael wears, and whatshisface Gabriel wears are probably the only people we've met who do have that ability. (If Michael had stayed in John long enough, John would be in the same state as Nick.)
whistler_wren From: whistler_wren Date: April 22nd, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
This was an excellent review of an excellent episode. I was squeeing and laughing throughout this review, and it certainly got me in the right frame of mind for tonight. I loved your "heir and a spare" comment, and your D&D analysis of the boys' fight.

Someone beat me to the http://smilla02.livejournal.com/205956.html comment, but I would also add that there're some pretty good caps down in the comments as well that you should check out.

As far as the angel situation, I'm still trying to hold out hope that Michael's not in on all this, but Zach seems pretty convinced - he even tells Adam that Michael foresaw this happening. Show is really having fun with the idea of fate and the differing levels of knowledge people have. In the end, aside from powers and abilities and what have you, it seems to be turning out that knowledge is the most powerful commodity to be had (aside from God's assistance) - for the hunters who know what's out there, for Sam & Dean to remain one step ahead or to the side, for the angels to arrange things to their liking. Look at the psychic kids - out of the powers of controlling minds, calling on demons, shocking people, and super-strength, the guy with the most intel was the one who was the most powerful.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:21 am (UTC) (Link)
D&D analysis of the boys' fight.

Given your icon, I'm not surprised! XD It's been a while, but I've been gaming my entire adult life plus some, so the frame of reference is always there.

knowledge is the most powerful commodity to be had

Rather like life? :-)
ciaranbochna From: ciaranbochna Date: April 22nd, 2010 09:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
Soo, when I collect myself I will have an opinion, and not just speculation and meta-inducing bits..lol Nice call on the tarot though, I shall have to investigate with the decks. I also think we should all send a bill for pain and suffering to Mr. Ackles, that man and his subtlety:P I am also glad Cas pounded him, since someone had too, blargh. I may have to bring in the stuffies or a dagger for security tonight *facepalm*
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:23 am (UTC) (Link)
am also glad Cas pounded him, since someone had too, blargh

I know!! I hardly ever want to smack the crap out of Dean and this episode really did. Everyonce in a while he gets blinders on, and walls himself up, and needs some kind of a kick in the ass to dislodge his head. :-P
blackcat333_99 From: blackcat333_99 Date: April 23rd, 2010 12:53 am (UTC) (Link)
Spitting blood for no apparent reason. Zachariah is nasty. Yeah, power corrupts and all, but Zachariah the type that probably shouldn't get power in the first place. Seriously, who did his psych evaluation?

Yeah... I'm wondering if Michael is Zach's boss, or if Zach's boss is just one more step higher on the hierarchy. Just because "Michael foresaw this"... Sure. And what he foresaw DID happen. Adam and Dean in the same room, both boys said Yes, and Michael DID end up with a compatible meatsuit. Just because he didn't get the delux version... He may not have see the final outcome of the showdown in that room, merely the moment of Dean showing up and saying Yes.

So now he's got the means to be able to talk to Dean, and finish the job of claiming him without having to resort to more time-travel red tape to borrow John's meatsuit for that follow up chat with Dean.

I really don't think Michael's going to view this as a setback or subversion of Fate... Detroit's still a little bit off. Although I do suspect he's going to start getting more directly active, because everyone keeps failing to clinch the deal with Dean.

Or maybe I just don't want Michael to be as corrupted and petty as Zach was. Wrong-headed, arrogant, yada yada, sure. But still on the right side of (self)righteous. I saw the arrogance back in Song Remains the Same... but not the contempt for humanity that we've seen from Zach, Lucifer, Uriel.

While I don't want to speculate too much about whatever's coming... I do feel pretty confident we will see Adam again as a Michael skin. Poor Adam. I like the kid. I hope he finds a way to survive.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:26 am (UTC) (Link)
Or maybe I just don't want Michael to be as corrupted and petty as Zach was. Wrong-headed, arrogant, yada yada, sure. But still on the right side of (self)righteous. I saw the arrogance back in Song Remains the Same... but not the contempt for humanity that we've seen from Zach, Lucifer, Uriel.

I know. You kind of want some of the angels to be uncorrupted, even if only so Castiel isn't the only one.

Poor Adam. I like the kid. I hope he finds a way to survive.

Given we're coming up on the finale, I suspect he'll survive, but not for long. :-/
samalander_dawn From: samalander_dawn Date: April 23rd, 2010 01:14 am (UTC) (Link)
always love love love your recaps, no matter how long they take or how sparse you think they are :D

too many points in here that are very good points and too many lines that are very good lines to put here, so I'm just going to go with the pic of Zachariah's wings (so glad you got a cap of that btw, I wasn't sure I'd seen them): not only are they looking kind of gappy, but they kind of look like they're getting batlike rather than feathery.... (I would LOVE to see Castiel's wings about now!)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:30 am (UTC) (Link)
not only are they looking kind of gappy, but they kind of look like they're getting batlike rather than feathery....

I thought so! I thought I might be reaching a little on that, so it's good to have corroboration from you as an uninfluenced second pair of eyes. :-)

(I would LOVE to see Castiel's wings about now!)

Totally. Once he's reconstituted, and NOT SCORCHED INTO A FLOOR, of course. O.O

I suspect their condition will depend on what power decrees wing-maintenance, whether they're an extension of grace, bunches of stuff. But I'm thinking they're even more kickass than they were at the start.
maychorian From: maychorian Date: April 23rd, 2010 03:35 am (UTC) (Link)
::flails at you::

caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:30 am (UTC) (Link)
*flails back*
eilonwy From: eilonwy Date: April 23rd, 2010 05:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
Not only that, SPIKY CLOCK HALO!

Whaddaya make of that [info]eilonwy? o.O *babbles randomly about Dean being ambushed by lurking divinity that has always been in the background...* *backs away from the sugar* [But, but it kind of works on a totally made-of-crack level. It's always there, it's always watching. Dean beat the crap out of a spiky clock once and it's still following them around.... HOLY CRAP, IS THE SPIKY CLOCK GOD!??! *backs even further away from the sugar*]

BWAH! Yes, CK, the spiky clock is God. HEE.

I have to rewatch this scene and the scene from "Dream a Little Dream of Me" because Dean also has the spiky clock halo there. Hmmmmm.

My summer project, as I starve and live out of a cardboard box (as I can't find summer work) is going to be ALL ABOUT THE SPIKY CLOCK.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: May 4th, 2010 06:40 am (UTC) (Link)
My summer project, as I starve and live out of a cardboard box (as I can't find summer work) is going to be ALL ABOUT THE SPIKY CLOCK.

bugeyedmonster From: bugeyedmonster Date: April 25th, 2010 06:15 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't watch Supernatural, but your comment about Cas in Oz had me hearing that song...

We represent the Lollipop Guild,
the Lollipop Guild,
the Lollipop Guild,
And we welcome you to Munchkinland...
bugeyedmonster From: bugeyedmonster Date: April 25th, 2010 06:31 am (UTC) (Link)
I haven't seen any of Supernatural, but for some wild reason I keep reading your episode recaps.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: May 4th, 2010 06:41 am (UTC) (Link)
That's... flattering? I think?
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