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Reaction: Supernatural 6.02 and picspam
I'm in the middle of yet another $@^$*& multiple-day screaming headache, (just in time for the weekend, yay) so apologies for the shortness and muddledness of reaction post.

Contains profanity and speculation.

Spoiler Summary

I didn't duck in time to miss an unexpected promo. Monster babies. Or baby monsters. Which may or may not kick Dean's ass, depending on the camera angle and the way the commercial is cut. If they do, I may never ever stop laughing.

Also, a digital TV box is okay (even though it turned out I didn't need one after all, but hey, I get National Geographic and Teletoon Retro now so all is well), but this 'show you the title and entire TV guide summary while programming the recording' thing is horribly spoilerrific. Grandpa and the Cousins want to keep the baby monster/monster baby and raise it as a hunter. Somehow, I don't think that's gonna happen. And of course the title; "Two and a Half Men." ...seriously? That show gives me hives.



Onward.



Picspam Reaction, with speculation and randomness for Supernatural 6.02 - Two and a Half Men *scratches and mutters*

Well! Isn't that interesting!

-Hi shifters randomly appearing in the recap! So, shifter babies. Or a shifter that makes itself look like a baby. Wild. Well, I guess it's a sort of progression. Pre-adolescent kids, little old ladies and now... Evil Babies: The new frontier. I guess?

-The whole pre-credit sequence is quite traumatizing, actually. Well done, show. *shivers*
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-Home for rent? Is that a common sign to see in the US? You have to hunt down rentals with a crossbow and chloroform around here.
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-Oh, they all moved. Very sane and logical choice, since the info on Monster Facebook will now be out of date until the next thing comes at you and updates it's status as 'getting ass kicked by Dean Winchester at 2345 Plum Tree Lane' or wherever it is.

-HI TRUNK!!! HI!!! *waves*

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-New house, but it's the same house layout as her first house in Cicero, the one with the changelings. Staircase configuration is very familiar.

-Baby's gone. Well, the baby didn't pull the mom out from under the bed, so maybe it's a changeling kind of situation again, with shifters doing some kind of swap in for the actual baby? But in that case, the baby should be there, but be the swapped-in baby. Hm. [In retrospect: Ew.]

-Don't go missing in Lansing, Michigan. Their missing posters are incredibly ineffectual. Date of disappearance? Vital statistics? Phone number to call? Have they issued an Amber alert?
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-[Ooo. Retrospectively telling bit. Sam revers to the missing baby as 'it' even with a gender-specific name on the poster. Ah hah hah. At some point in time when my head isn't exploding I might ponder that.]

-Written by Adam Glass, directed by John F. Showalter. Recognize Showalter, not recalling Glass.

-Hee! Samuel vs the laptop. Considering when he died computers were room-sized things or stuff from sci-fi, he should have a rather epic digital divide from the rest of the world.

-"Either way, it's baby stew. Which is bad." *snerk* [But Sam already called the baby 'it'... hm.]

-Ben and guns. Bound to happen. Surprised it didn't before now with the cannon Dean's keeping under the bed, and seriously, Dean, you didn't properly close the Impala's trunk?? [Or Ben stole the keys and unlocked it himself. Dean's concept of key-hiding is rather woeful.]
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-"I can do what you do." Yep. Wee Hunter wannabe Ben. He's a kid, and he's wearing a military-themed t-shirt, and he knows monsters are real, and he knows you hunt them. If I was Ben and twelve I'd be crawling into the trunk and stowing away. Of coure I was a moron when I was 12.

-Sam's car has a spoiler. The vehicular kind. I find this greatly amusing.
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-The babies are all 6 months old. Again with the six months. Must be something to that. I know from way back in the "what did yellow-eyes do to baby!Sammy?" days research, that 6 months is generally the age a baby starts to become aware that the world is not part of them. Or something like that.

-Dean's lying to Lisa. Badly. Still. Not sure why. Also, randomly, bubblegum pink stucco wall. Not sure why on that either. The front side of the house was nice and brown wood colours, but back 'round the garage, bubblegum pink stucco. It may be the headache talking, but there might be meta in that. On the surface presented to the public, traditional and respectable, but on the more hidden surfaces, weird-coloured and lumpy. Yeah, sounds like a typical metaphor for any family. *nods*
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-I have "Sam sad muppet-face" in my notes and I cannot find it anywhere for capping. I suspect hallucinations.

-Why would he bring a silver knife. Well, a lot of things respond that way to silver, I guess. [Or they knew they were after a shifter. Just maybe.]

-Arg, sound de-synched on the broadcast, driving me nuts. However, Dean still has an awesome WTF face.
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-Did Sam say, "Welcome to the party, Gutenberg"? What does any of this have to do with the invention of the printing press? [After googling, I still can't make the reference make sense, unless it's some kind of reference to "Three Men and a Baby" in which case they're a man short.]

-How to protect your home and family from monsters: The Dean Winchester crash course. Of course she's got to know about the symbol painting and salting doors and windows since she's watched Dean doing all this crazy crap to her house over the past year, and the permanent symbol stuff probably all got painted or etched before the moving truck got to the new place. Hopefully Lisa immediately goes out for target practice after he leaves and possibly some gun safety lessons. And has some nice long chats with Bobby. Sometime after she gets dressed.
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-"If you don't walk out that door, I'm gonna shoot you." GO LISA!!! \o/
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-Oh that baby is totally evil. Seriously, look at that face.
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-Baby care and Dean. Grocery shopping for baby stuff. I'm just gonna say 'bwahahaha' and keep going. [And screencaps.]
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[Is it just me or does it look like Sam (or more likely Jared) is trying not to bust out laughing in that last cap?]

-Bobby John. Everyone together now? AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! (who picked which?) [Dean picked Bobby, Sam picked John. Awwwwww.]

-Pft. Hi! I'm a random stranger who wants to not only touch your child but change its diapers. Hell no, lady, and I don't care if you're a monster or not. No way in hell.
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-To misquote a million lolcats: Oh crap, it's a mandroid. GET IN THE CAR!!!! [And now noting the baby is not facing the camera there. Handy that.]
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-Super Valu might also be an American chan, but that's a Canadian sign configuration for them. At least it wasn't an Overwaitea. That would have been a big 'you aren't filming in the US' signpost right there.
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-Hm. Given the uniform shirt the shifter is wearing is clean, poor dead police officer here can't have been wearing it when his throat was cut. That's... oddly disturbing.
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-Ha! Dean with the booze onna finger trick. Usually for teething and I suppose not exactly approved of these days, but it's very Deanish.

-And Sam gets confirmation of shifter babies. Also ew.

-Baby's first shifter!splode! HAHAHAH! I wonder how long certain people involved in the show *koffKripkekoff* have been trying to find some legitimate justifiable way within the plot to have a baby explode on a national network? This also explains the 6 months thing. Shifter babies don't teethe, they moult. Explosively. But what about the ones we've seen that were probably raised by humans? Surely an exploding shape-shifting baby would alert the parents that something was weird. Unless... ooo, very cool monster design. See, it's like an innate chameleon thing! The baby just shifted to more closely match the appearance of the last shifter that touched it. It must be an automatic thing that they grow out of in time. Shifter kids that haven't been collected like the one in Skin and shifter!Drac and are raised among bog-standard humans don't have this problem because they don't come in contact with other shifters, and therefore they don't start shifting autonomously until puberty or something. Yeah. Makes sense. *nods*
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-Baby's bigger too, I think. [...Or maybe the baby mimicked the one on the package of diapers? ...Random googling says kids don't usually match pictures to objects until about 18 months, but who knows how fast a shifter!baby's cognitive development goes? I still like my theory better. Even though I think the baby is the same baby as the one on the diaper box, I say chameleon tendencies, because mimicking kids off diaper packs would tip off normal human parents. Or it's another post-apocalypse monster rule change, and that's why the shifters are gathering up the cuckoo kids. *handwaves*]
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-Hey, it's that wall! Someone was tracking when that setpiece was used. I forget who. (I haven't noticed the spiky clock yet, eilonwy, have you?)
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-[Yah know, offhand thought, I think the silver knives they've been swinging around are actually switchblades, or at least folding blades. That's a hell of a niche market. There's an official silver Swiss Army knife, though... although I think the ones the boys are using are a simpler blade-only design. It would be possible to take the steel blade out and pop in a silver one, I suppose. Still, as I said, niche market. Someone's making some cash among hunters selling those. *nods*]

-"I'm a freaking headcase!" Ah, Dean. Know thyself. *pats*

-Crap, Samuel and the cousins have a compound? That's alarming. Wondering where they keep the live captures now. Eek.
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-"Aren't you the best disguise a monster ever wore?" Cousin... uh... I'm sorry I've forgotten her name. Anyway, she is really really creepy.
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-Nooooo. No letting scary grandpa/cousin people touch the baby.
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-Raise him. Yep. *ticks spoiler off* Considering how matter-of-fact Samuel is about all this, I'd say this isn't the first time for it. *looks suspiciously at the Cousins again*

-"Your mind goes right to torture, Dean. Don't assume that for everyone." Ooo. Burn. Not surprising he knows considering hunters had known and spending four months dead and coming back tends to make people curious... but the torturing thing... Sam, I do believe you have some explaining to do?

-"Congrats. It's a boy. Sometimes." Giving a baby of any kind to the creepiest cousin? Oh this is all SO wrong.
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-I gotta say, I love the little baby actor. Look at the facial expression!
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-Hi parent!shifter! And looking like Samuel already? How do shifters take templates, don't they need contact, or to have met the target, and keep them alive? Or is this part of the Post-apocalypse New World Order "monster rules break all to smash" thing?
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-Aw, the cool quiet cousin got his neck broken. Dammit! He was the only one I really liked. Although if he's maybe a former monster-baby too, maybe a broken neck is totally dealable. Maybe he'll repop. Maybe.

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-Darts and silver nets. Live capture again. Grandpa, what are you up to?
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-Ejecting the darts. Okay... I guess it makes sense a shifter could do that, but I'm guessing it's a parent!shifter thing.

-"I'm going up, stay with the baby." Sam. Dude. Are you an idiot? There is a shape-shifter and you want to leave the safe room alone? Sam, you utter mor- whups, never mind, parent!shifter's here.
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-New thing! No splat shift! And a shift including clothing, since I hadn't clued into that before. And an excuse to have Jensen play evil, which he really should do more often. Just sayin'.

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-Why did it leave Dean alive? (aside from the obvious 'script says so') Hm. Interesting.

-Alpha monster! King shifter! Yay! Myth! Tons of lore we haven't heard before! Whee! \o/

-...although the implications that maybe they're gonna retcon everything and have God be Alpha of angels and Lucifer be pushing to be Alpha demon and death as Alpha reaper and... um. Hrm lots of implications. Also, since I'm reeeeeally medicated right now and between spikes of headache... since their ancestors were decapitating vampires on the Mayflower, is there an Alpha hunter? Orion? Cernunnos? Diana? Loads of them out there. Just a thought. Blaming the meds.

-Newsflash! Sam still sucks at lying.
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-"It killed three of my people." Wait. Three people? He only lost one of the three cousins though? Ohhhhh right, the two on the gate. Just like poor cousin Leonard last episode, we hardly knew yah. At all. ...Hunh. It killed the gate guards with no noise, and yet did not kill the barking dog we never saw that tipped off the gang there was something inbound. Hunh. Weirdness abounds. Maybe the dog was a recording? Yeah. *handwaves*

-Oh, hey, who's Grandpa on the phone with? Has he got a Sponsor? One who wants Alphas? One who probably resurrected a few people by nefarious means? Ooo.

-And then I lost all my other notes except for GAAAH GIANT SPIDER CRAWLING UP THE WALL BEHIND THE TV! for a while...

-"You're not a construction worker." Go away but come back sometime. Yep. I like Lisa. I expect she'll be back during a future crisis.
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-OH HELL YEAH CAR!!!!!!!! AND SMOKE ON THE WATER!! YEAH!! HELL WITH EVERYTHING, THE IMPALA IS OUT FROM UNDER COVER!!! WOOOO!!! [This calls for some celebratory caps.]
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[Oh and Ms. Sera Gamble? I'd like to draw your attention to the continuing lack of spotlights on the Impala. Expect a poster soon.]





(PLEASE, NO SPOILERS OR REFERENCES TO SPOILERY MATERIAL IN COMMENTS! Any and all promo material for unaired episodes is considered to be a spoiler in this journal. The further definition of what constitutes a spoiler for this journal is located in left hand sidebar. Theory and speculation based on aired episodes only.)

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irismay42 From: irismay42 Date: October 3rd, 2010 05:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
Brilliant catch with the baby shifter shifting into the baby on the diaper box! I never noticed! I loved the splatter when he shifted though. Awesome.

I think the creepy chick cousin is called Glenn. Campbell. Oh hold on, actually maybe it's Gwen. And of all the Campbells to kill it had to be the best one!

Totally loved Lisa in this episode. Yes, why can't hunters have a family and a hunting life too? Christian obviously has if he and his girl (who is probably a zombie or a giant spider (heh) or something) are trying to have babies!

Now while Jensen does evil brilliantly, I have to say it's Evil!Sam who always manages to float my boat!

I liked this ep. Starting to feel like SN again.

Hope your headache goes away soon!
astrothsknot From: astrothsknot Date: October 3rd, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Glenn. Campbell.

and if you're a Scot over 30, you'll be giggling insanely at the images that conjures up and wondering what hilarity Paladin will cause.

Gods Below, I so want Sam's car.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
Gods Below, I so want Sam's car.

It is shiny, but I prefer the Impala. Even though its carbon footprint is the size of a small island.

Edited at 2010-10-03 09:21 pm (UTC)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Glenn. Campbell.

Didn't he play an accordion?

And of all the Campbells to kill it had to be the best one!

Yeah! The one that didn't ooze evil on the rare occasions he opened his mouth and seemed to not mind Dean being there.

(who is probably a zombie or a giant spider (heh) or something) are trying to have babies!

*points to icon* Gaaaaaah! O.O

Hope your headache goes away soon!

It phases in and out, right now it's between spikes again. :-P
irismay42 From: irismay42 Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hah! I think I should have spelt it "Glen Campbell" as I meant the Wichita Lineman guy, not the Scottish broadcaster!
bellatemple From: bellatemple Date: October 3rd, 2010 06:23 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sam and Dean called the babies "it" throughout the entire episode, as did, I think, Samuel, and it DROVE ME UP THE FREAKING WALL. Dean did it well before he knew the kid was a shifter, too. My idea is that children under the age of, like, 7, are so rare in the Winchester experience that they're utterly alien and thus "its" -- eeeeeeeeexcept Lisa has a baby niece, apparently. Does Dean call his girlfriend's baby niece "it"? Does Lisa hit him? Things to think about.

There were many ways that this plot totally didn't actually work. Why did the "alpha" shifter turn into Samuel, Sam, and Dean? Why didn't it kill them (especially Dean)? Oh, and hey, how about all that casually handled rape by fraud that happened six months ago. That's fun.

On the other hand: Dean with a baby! Yay! (And why did I find it especially heartwarming when he was holding and protecting a non-caucasian baby? Hmm.)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Sam and Dean called the babies "it" throughout the entire episode, as did, I think, Samuel, and it DROVE ME UP THE FREAKING WALL.

Actually, in retrospect I do too. More of a 'not wanting to make any gender assumptions' thing than a 'this small creature is an object' thing. In Sam and Samuel's case I think at least Samuel knew the baby was a shifter, although the evidence is conflicting.

Why did the "alpha" shifter turn into Samuel, Sam, and Dean?

Jollies? To make anyone watching hesitate before interfering in a shifter-on-target combat because they wouldn't know which was the real person?

Why didn't it kill them (especially Dean)?

I'm hoping that will lead to something in future. Probably won't but I'm hoping.

Oh, and hey, how about all that casually handled rape by fraud that happened six months ago. That's fun.

Yeeeeeeeeah, that is definitely a minefield. (15 months, BTW, not 6, so the shifter was doing that while the Apocalypse was still a going concern.) Rather than try to address it, they sidestepped the whole thing.

On the other hand: Dean with a baby! Yay!

Indeed. :-D
bellatemple From: bellatemple Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
Right, I can totally do math. . . .

But you make a good point about the "it" thing, though they establish that the baby they have on hand is male (at the time) pretty quickly.

Also, I've noticed that all the shifters we see seem to primarily identify as male. It's interesting, in a context of gender theory, though I don't feel qualified to really theorize much about it.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 6th, 2010 02:07 am (UTC) (Link)
I feel really reluctant to casually discuss this, but from a cold-yet-handwavey-science perspective, given the way shifters procreate, female-organ-equipped shifters wouldn't be involved in the process. Maybe Shifters tend toward male after puberty for that reason. Or maybe there's been some kind of evolutionary drift? Biological gender would traditionally be coming from the male end of the gene pool, and there's no telling what the genetic structure of a shifter is like. One of the babies was originally female though, and all three prior shifters seen that I recall were female at times.
bellatemple From: bellatemple Date: October 6th, 2010 05:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, but I'm not just talking about biological structure on that front. I'm talking about how they appear to identify, genderwise.

That, of course, may be an over simplification of the issue, one influenced not just by our cultural insistence upon a gender binary, but also by the Winchesters being our primary POV and them seeming to (iirc) identify shifters as male. . . .
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 6th, 2010 06:04 am (UTC) (Link)
Ah, I see. Hm. Well really, we haven't seen a shifter in a 'non-prowling/shifting to specific forms for whatever purpose' situation, have we? Except for the babies, of course. The Skin shifter was shifting to those forms to achieve the goal of, well, murdering up as many people as possible, I guess? The Bank shifter was shifting to rob banks and jewerly stores (iirc, need to rewatch that one). Drac!shifter was the only shifter we've seen the 'identity' form(s) of, Dracula and Mina(?), and those were deliberately based off movie roles, because he wanted to hide himself in a fantasy world.

Without seeing a shifter at rest and alone, not in a form deliberately chosen to achieve a specific purpose or as a reaction to the people around them, I don't know if any assessments can really be made about gender identification among shifters. What gender-form do shifters relax into when they're hanging around at home alone in a bathrobe eating Cheetos and watching re-runs of Seinfeld? Doubtful we'll ever see a relaxed shifter alone on the show, so it's a bit of an academic point, but it is an interesting thing to ponder. Shifter demographics! :-D
bellatemple From: bellatemple Date: October 6th, 2010 06:16 am (UTC) (Link)
Yes, that! And how much of the way they appear to identify is based on the fact that they're presented as active, and our media tends towards differentiating between the active male and the passive female (okay, so I read sociological images, a lot)?

And hey, on that topic, we do get some nice, driven, motivated women on this show. They're usually conniving, manipulative, and evil, but they're often proactive. . . .
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 6th, 2010 06:36 am (UTC) (Link)
And how much of the way they appear to identify is based on the fact that they're presented as active, and our media tends towards differentiating between the active male and the passive female

I don't see that at all. They all took active female forms when it suited their purposes/missions. Skin shifter took the shape of Sam's friend who's name I've forgotten in order to bean him on the head with that bottle. Bank shifter took the form of that female bank employee for most of the episode and kicked the crap out of Dean in that form, Drac also taking the form of Mina to befriend what's her name the Oktoberfest girl and drug her and Dean... etc. Really, they've all had no problems being female or male as the situation called for it. Even the most recent one that wasn't the Alpha shifted into creepy random grandma when trying to sneal the baby away from Sam and Dean.

If anything I'd say their gender identity is situational, based on their immediate purposes. Shifters aren't going to shy away from becoming a certain gender if it helps achieve their aim (or in a more day to day circumstance, helps them blend into whatever social situation they find themself in). When they're at home alone with no situation to be some specific person or gender for, that's the only time I think a real identity would show, male, female or other. Kind of like the social masks everyone wears in social situations. We behave a certain way, dress a certain way, speak a certain way because that's the image we want or feel we need to present under whatever circumstances we're in. Under the 'masks', we might be similar to what we present, or we might be very different. I think it's much the same with shifters, only their situations are very different and their social 'masks' include changes to their whole bodies.

I'm probably not making a pile of sense there.
borgmama1of5 From: borgmama1of5 Date: October 3rd, 2010 07:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
"Don't go missing in Lansing, Michigan. Their missing posters are incredibly ineffectual."

I love you for this bit of snark :)

You should write your reviews heavily medicated all the time...Although, considering some of the details you caught, you are probably even more deadly when coherent :)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love you for this bit of snark :)

Seriously, there wasn't even a date! It's like 'Hey, missing baby named Emma Cooper! Went missing sometime before this poster was posted, and if you find her... *shrug* dunno.'

even more deadly when coherent

I may want this engraved on my tombstone. XD
ciaranbochna From: ciaranbochna Date: October 3rd, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
I am feeling the need to lock all the cousins in a room and interrogate them, or someone should. That one cousin--we can't remember her name--just..wrong. I also flailed everywhere when the Impala came out (so did mom). I am with you pondering why Dean was left alive, and Sam is such an awful liar, yes.

Hope your migraine has dissapated somewhat.

Hugs
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hope your migraine has dissapated somewhat.

It's between spikes, which means I've been able to get a recs post up, and I'm hoping to make some progress on whumping Sherlock for charity.
eilonwy From: eilonwy Date: October 3rd, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
(I haven't noticed the spiky clock yet, [info]eilonwy, have you?)
Alas, no. :( I miss my spiky clock! Since I asked at VanCon about said spiky clock, and they were filming episode 6 at the time, I'm going to watch even more for it starting episode 7... Heh.

And the female cousin is "Gwen". The males were Mark and Christian, I think, but I don't know which was which, nor which kicked it. I'm hoping that the rapid demolition of cousins means there'll be none left by sweeps... is that wrong of me?

(Also, I may have started collecting supplies with which to make a wee!spiky!clock for the yarn!chesters. Maybe. Y'know. Possibly.)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 3rd, 2010 09:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
And the female cousin is "Gwen". The males were Mark and Christian, I think, but I don't know which was which, nor which kicked it.

I think the dead one was Mark. I'd thought he was 'Bart' back when he was introduced, but my sound is muddy.

(Also, I may have started collecting supplies with which to make a wee!spiky!clock for the yarn!chesters. Maybe. Y'know. Possibly.)

Ooo. Starch or wires or some kind of toothpicks for the spikes?
percysowner From: percysowner Date: October 3rd, 2010 11:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, we have houses for rent in the US a lot, especially since the housing market tanked. 40 years ago, when my father married my stepmother we rented out my old house for a year because it wasn't selling. So, it's not an uncommon thing.

Considering only Dean, Castiel, the Angels and Bobby knew Sam broke the last seal and drank demon blood and yet we had 2 groups of hunters who knew and came after Sam for doing it so I don't think we can be sure the Campbells found out from Sam about Dean's stint as a torturer in Hell. Once Lucifer was out, the story of the "breaking of the seals" probably spread like wildfire and the Campbells seem like the type of hunters who get whatever information they can out of anything supernatural that they capture. I'm giving Sam the benefit of the doubt here.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 4th, 2010 03:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, we have houses for rent in the US a lot, especially since the housing market tanked.

Ah. Last time I checked a paper around here there were fewer than ten house rentals for an area with a population of 50,000.

I'm giving Sam the benefit of the doubt here.

I want to to, but there was something guilty about the facial expressions after that. Maybe I was misreading.
percysowner From: percysowner Date: October 4th, 2010 05:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
As an admitted Sam lover, when I saw that look my first thought was now everyone is going to think Sam told. I thought the look was guilt on not being able to make Christian shut up about what he knew and guilt about the entire Apocalypse disaster. Dean's torturing in Hell led to Sam breaking the final seal and resulted directly from Sam being alive when he should have died. I suspect Sam feels great guilt about Dean breaking the seal and is entirely discomforted by any mention of Dean's time in Hell. But like I said, I tend to give Sam the benefit of the doubt. The show rarely does.
From: spacefarer Date: October 4th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC) (Link)
Enjoyed your review, as always.

Loved Dean with the baby. Loved Lisa--she has been great in both eps. I know that we were all waiting for Dean to hit the road again, but I'm really glad Dean gets to keep the relationship. I think it's been fantastic for him; he has definitely matured.

Interesting idea on the six-month mention, that it's when a shifter baby first shifts, instinctively. Apparently, unlike other shifters we've seen, the Alpha doesn't need contact with the person he shifts into. (In "Skin," the shifter seemed to be born to two normal human parents. Is this latest a retcon?) It may be he's so old, he doesn't have his original form anymore and just shifts into whomever he's facing (psychological advantage?). And, yeah, Sam definitely should not have gone off alone!


//Considering only Dean, Castiel, the Angels and Bobby knew Sam broke the last seal and drank demon blood and yet we had 2 groups of hunters who knew and came after Sam for doing it so I don't think we can be sure the Campbells found out from Sam about Dean's stint as a torturer in Hell. Once Lucifer was out, the story of the "breaking of the seals" probably spread like wildfire and the Campbells seem like the type of hunters who get whatever information they can out of anything supernatural that they capture. I'm giving Sam the benefit of the doubt here.//

Hunters found out about Sam when the demon in 5.03 told some of them, and they passed it on. But not even Bobby knew about the breaking of the first seal. And when Walt and Roy came for Sam, they had no interest in offing Dean until he figured out who they were. So it doesn't appear that anyone else knew about what had happened in Hell. Besides, I'm assuming JP knows what he's doing--and he definitely had Sam looking guilty when Christian first started talking. So, yep, I think it was Sam (and based on Gwen's line last week about Sam going on and on about Dean, coupled with the cousins' attitude toward Dean, it doesn't seem that Sam talked Dean up, does it?), until the show tells us otherwise.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 4th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
In "Skin," the shifter seemed to be born to two normal human parents. Is this latest a retcon?

The way this is set up, the parents would likely have no idea they'd been raped/cuckolded. The one only figured it out because of the logistical impossibility he'd been the father.

he definitely had Sam looking guilty when Christian first started talking.

That's what I thought too.
malevolent73 From: malevolent73 Date: October 4th, 2010 04:49 am (UTC) (Link)
I know exactly what you mean about the description on the tv. When I used to go to play the ep I'd cover my eyes and have the kids start it so I couldn't speed read through the description. LOL

And I noticed Sam's use of "it" pretty quickly cause it was so disappointing. Not suprising though.

And the Impala love made me tingly. Ha.

I wonder what Dodger_winslow thought of the whole thing. She had a very in depth fic (WIP) called Skin Deep that was all about a kid shifter and wee!Dean&Sam. I don't think she ever finished it though.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 4th, 2010 04:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
And the Impala love made me tingly. Ha.

Oh yeah!

I wonder what Dodger_winslow thought of the whole thing. She had a very in depth fic (WIP) called Skin Deep that was all about a kid shifter and wee!Dean&Sam. I don't think she ever finished it though.

I think she made a one line post earlier that seemed to me she wasn't too happy. I thought it was about the 'John as parent' stuff this episode had. I forgot about her shifter!kid fic.
charis_kalos From: charis_kalos Date: October 8th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC) (Link)
"Two and a Half Men." ...seriously? That show gives me hives.

You and me both. And yet it's one of the most popular American shows on Australian television. Weird.

since the info on Monster Facebook will now be out of date until the next thing comes at you and updates it's status as 'getting ass kicked by Dean Winchester at 2345 Plum Tree Lane' or wherever it is.

OMG! Monster Facebook! Can you imagine the ads?

Sam revers to the missing baby as 'it' even with a gender-specific name on the poster.

That might just be a "young-man-without-much-experience-of-babies" thing. Babies tend to look androgynous (and bald) and I noticed among my male college students a tendency to use non-gender-specific language even when they knew a baby's sex. (Then there's the one student still insists on asking after my nephew as 'Yoda' when we meet.)

Of coure I was a moron when I was 12.

As are most twelve-year-olds. Complete with feelings of immortality. That's why you keep them away from guns!

After googling, I still can't make the reference make sense, unless it's some kind of reference to "Three Men and a Baby" in which case they're a man short

This would make Sam Tom Selleck. Ted Danson didn't arrive until much later in the movie. And at least they didn't namecheck Charlie and Alan. (God, how do I know those are the names of the men in Two and a Half Men? Are those their names?)

I'm a random stranger who wants to not only touch your child but change its diapers. Hell no, lady, and I don't care if you're a monster or not.

Maybe it's a small-town Australia thing, but I quite often end up holding the babies or playing with the children of people I don't know when in parks. I exude 'trust-worthy, child-friendly' vibes!

Samuel and the cousins have a compound? That's alarming. Wondering where they keep the live captures now.

So bloody disturbing!

I love Lisa. And the unveiling of the Impala. Hey, Dean's girlfriend is as cool and tough as his "baby". He has a definite type.

I'm struggling a wee bit with Samuel. Partly because he's so obviously up to something and Sam doesn't seem to be worried about it. Dean is, but Sam's bought into the "family" thing, but he never even met pre-resurrection Samuel - and surely he should be more worried about someone brought back from the dead? I can't wait til we get the back story of what Sam's been up to in the missing year and why the hell he's bought the Campbell family thing. They're a cult, Sammy! Get out of there! No drinking the Kool-Aid!

Plus, Grandpa looks too much like Skinner. At least Cousin Christian doesn't look too much like Stargate's Jonas Quinn.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: October 8th, 2010 06:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
OMG! Monster Facebook! Can you imagine the ads?

I don't have a facebook so I haven't seen the ads, but I hear there's something called "Farmville" that a monster version of would be quite disturbing. XD

God, how do I know those are the names of the men in Two and a Half Men? Are those their names?

I don't know if they are or not, but I would blame the ads.

Sam's bought into the "family" thing, but he never even met pre-resurrection Samuel - and surely he should be more worried about someone brought back from the dead?

Excellent point! He likely hasn't even seen a photo of him, so the trust thing is extra weird. Something is definitely up with Sam. Wonder if he's under some kind of thrall or coersion put on by whoever raised him?

Plus, Grandpa looks too much like Skinner.

I think that's pretty unavoidable unless he grew hair. Bald is a harder look to make different between characters. :-)
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