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Picspam Reaction: Supernatural 8.13
(A week late, sigh. Also, the new entry posting window is going to take a LOT of getting used to. I want my scroll bar back. :-( )

Warning: Contains profanity. ETA: Warning for hardcore spoilerphobes: Comments contain mention of Show renewal status.

Spoiler and Theory Summary

A Golem played by someone taller than Jared, therefore Jewish culture if they're doing it right, and since Misha's apparently been tweeting about Nazis, probably some history, and maybe an Indiana Jones shout out, because Dean.

Also, there is a Bat Cave. I'm guessing it's the thing the key opens, full of great stuff and kind of like John's storage unit times a couple thousand. AWESOME. And what better to guard said Bat Cave than a magical automaton made of clay with a little scroll of instructions in its head? Hence Golem. Maybe.

Also also. Bat Cave of magical toys + Nazis = increase to 99.999999% chance for a Raiders of the Lost Ark/Indiana Jones shout out. Caution, this episode may contain graphic face-melting.


Picspam Reaction, with speculation and randomness for Supernatural 8.13 - "???" "Everybody Hates Hitler"

[Random, scattered and exceptionally disjointed as due to work and other commitments I've been watching this episode in small chunks for the past seven days. Gaaaahhh...]

-Skipping the THEN.

-OOO! Nowhere near the lower 48 states. Cool!

-Yep, Misha wasn't just randomly tweeting about Nazis it seems. There's always a chance of random BS with anything Misha says.

-That's an entirely appropriate reaction to a Golem I think.

-Oh ho! Is someone using a blood phone?

-That's the fun thing about creatures made of hardened clay. Bullets really don't bother them much.

-I feel the sudden need to chortle at the giant galloping hordes of possibility this whole Men of Letters secret society business has opened up. Like WWII being fought on a secondary magical level in SPN-verse.

-Maybe not so much face-melting as head-squashing.

-*splorfs at subtitle* You chicken! Running away and leaving the rest to deal with the Golem? CHICKEEEEEEEN!

-Firstly, again, CHICKEEEEEEEN! Secondly, not only is the guy running away, he's torching his own troops to hide it. Thirdly, fire preeeetty. Fourthly, it's safe to assume the fire-proof case with the log-book the guy was writing in earlier will be important later. Fifthly, fire's not gonna do much to a guy made from clay except make him tougher. Sixthly, CHICKEEEEEEEEEN!


-Nice edifice. *nods*

-OOO BOX! OOO. With the flippy, twisty, slidey bits. I WANT ONE. I don't know what I'd keep in it, but I want one.


-Flashlight-fu and wrought iron (possibly?) railings. Pretty.

-Hey, that looks really similar to the banks of equipment from the building with the showdown with the Hell Knight. Hmm.

-Looks like someone had a game of Risk going, ha ha ha. No, not really.

-Old typewriter! I think mom might have had one like that. *babbles randomly about desks and lamps*

-I feel like I'm going to be very random while watching this episode...

-Chess game! In progress! Between a man who smoked and was drinking hi-balls, and a right-handed woman drinking tea or coffee and didn't have time to finish it so it dried out. At least that looks like a lipstick smudge. Could be mould. And she'd have had to be sitting half-turned and looking out into the room away from the board for that location to be comfortable for her picking up that cup. Are those sea-horses for knights?

-Hehehe. Oh this should be good.

-Oh hot damn. I'm just gonna cap everything now, alright?
I want it. Especially that last room. Books and swords everywhere. That floor. I'm in.

-Oh and that room would be a particularly good place for Kevin to set up camp and decode tablets too. Practical. Yes. *nods*

-"I think we found the Bat Cave." And there's the line that popped up in a whole lot of journals, and I don't blame anyone for that. That is awesome.

-It has a shower room! I love this place, it's like they found the Tardis interior roaming free in Kansas. I'm kind of wondering about the electricity and water still being on, but really, no one's found it for years, so I can see it having a very (literally) grandfathered off-cut from the power and water system, or a generator of some sort and a well, or heck, an enchanted perpetual Lightning bottle and all the taps and shower heads having Create and Heat Water spells set in perpetuity. It's a cool place, I want it. Logic-schmogic *handwave*

-"I still can't figure out how we even have water, or electricity." Hee! Half a step ahead of you, Sam. Just try not to think about it and enjoy the awesome. XD

-Ahahahahaha! Dean and a scimitar. Whee! \o/

-Written by Ben Edlund. Directed by Phil Sgriccia. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better.


-"It's not even sharp. *ting* It's very sharp." Dean. XD

-"Your... sinister friend." The trouble with being seen as a nutcase with paranoid delusions on this show is that most of the time, you aren't being paranoid enough. Also, Not-Paranoid-Enough-Guy tie report: Maroonish red, and visually a bit like he's had his throat cut. Poor doomed bastard. Awesome hat though.

-Whereas disbelieving reference desk guy (who given the stories I've heard from people who work in libraries is reacting to this guy the same way he's reacted to the last three patrons who've shown up and gone on about alien invasions, planes spraying chemicals, and the dog next door that's telling him to move to Fiji) tie report: ...Taupe? I think that's what that color is called, at least in pantyhose. Or perhaps it's a light mocha. Green sweater vest, and completing the 'I should be wearing a pointy hat and frolicking in a forest somewhere' color scheme, a brown pinstripe jacket- oh ho! Pinstripes crossing over each other, so that combined with the seriously evil eyebrows this dude is rocking make me think maybe he's up to something more than he seems to be. *side-eyes*

-Well hello there, log book from the fire-proof case from the fire with the disappearing Nazi (CHICKEEEEEN) and the Golem. And given that our not-paranoid-enough gentleman is wearing a yarmulke under his awesome hat, I'm thinking he's got nothing to worry about from the Golem since he's maybe got the 'How to Build a Golem' instructions, and since he's maybe from the remnants of another Men of Letters group from the hunting for knowledge stuff. Because seriously, the secret society has to be something more than a handful of guys in bathrobes in a basement in Illinois.

-That clerk sure had tidy handwriting, and I do not envy whoever in the art department had to handwrite all that. BTW, can any German-speakers who happen to read this tell what the all-caps section is yelling about just above the guy's right pinky? Since it's not the last entry, maybe it's just something like the supplies shipment was delayed again and there's no toilet paper left, but someone seems excited about something.

-I love subtitles. All I caught was a 'tuchus' at the end, and I know what that means, Yiddish or not. XD

-This is why you should never take a book from the library without checking it out. Lurking shadows (who may or may not be astonishingly well-preserved disappearing Nazis) will stalk you. Oh wait, maybe it's just his valise... but he's hugging it awfully close... hm...

-Public area, and call someone on a pay-phone. Our not-paranoid-enough gentleman is being quite smart, nonetheless.

-*squints* ...maybe? Or maybe not. Shiny charcoal tie though. Up to no good.

-And now that he's passed the number on and made a call from a traceable pay-phone using his credit card, he can feel the imminent doom of possibly not being required for the furthering of the plot. I think he'll be around a bit longer though. He's cool. Also, he's being played by the same guy who played Barney Miller, I think. That was a long while ago, and I was a kid. All I really remember is this guy in a mustache, and a guy named Fish who spent a lot of time in the bathroom. A quick scroll through wiki tells me it also starred Ron Glass who went on much later to play Shepherd Book on Firefly so.... I'm not sure what my point was there. Did I mention the random?

-Oh dear. It's never a good sign when obsessive researcher types walk away and leave their notes unattended. O.O

-Oh crap. Smoking is not a good thing to be doing. I think I know why he walked away from his notes now though, if these guys have a noted tendency to set people on fire remotely. D:

-"Two weeks later." Oh hell yeah, I'd bunker up and push all the buttons too if I found a place like that. Plus, they haven't heard of the case of not-so-spontaneous human combustion yet.

-They haven't moved Kevin in yet (fools) they haven't heard from Castiel (eeeeeeek O.o) and *squints at Sam's laptop* It's not just an impenetrable well-appointed cement bunker with a brand new beer fridge, it's a well-appointed cement bunker with a brand new beer fridge and WIFI. I want it.

-"The Judah Initiative?" Like the Avengers initiative, except... different. COOL. See! I knew there had to be more to it.

-"Rabbis. Rabbis?" *grins* Dean's face.

-"So... this is a case." Yep. Spontaneous combustion has kind of been a big flashing light for case priority since Sam and Dean were little, hasn't it. Not so much now that they've figured out what happened to Mary, but still. Case.

-Dean, wash the Impala sometime, hunh? Sam, nice touch with the academic elbow patches, but if you put on some fake 'brainy specs' I may need to laugh at you quite hard.


-Meanwhile our evil-eyebrowed research librarian suddenly has a far more complex yet still subtle tie, and a tie-mimicking argyleish sweater vest. And the crossing lines have moved from his non-existent jacket to his shirt and I swear, this guy has to be up to something.

-Sam also has cross-purposes stripes in his shirt despite his lack of tie, but the sweater-vest is making me laugh too hard to think straight.

-"How about just the stuff he was looking at, you know, the day he... caught fire." Subtle Sam is subtle.

-"That'll shorten the list a bit." Hee.

-Dean, with a maroon tie with grey stripes, interviewing college girls in a bar for a case, and all is right in his world. Despite the kicked-puppy face.

-Nazi necromancers. Greaaaaaat.

-Now that is the big-eyed stare of someone who knows something useful. Or wants to lick your neck and braid your chest hair. Your call, Dean.

-Leaning more toward neck-licking now.

-"It was like that." This girl's face is cracking me up so hard.

-Ahahahaha. Yeah. Not the book you're looking for. Also 'Drawings by Mary-Ann Liu'? Member of the crew whose name has shown up in many interesting places during the past 7 seasons, the one that sticks in my mind being on the birth certificate of one of the 'special kids' near the end of season 1.

-"Special Agent Bolen." Nope, drawing a blank. Maybe it's not a musician. Mack Bolan? Bolen Books? Hmm.

-"So we.... didn't have a thing back there, hunh?" Well, looks like neck licking is the primary motivation, but that doesn't mean he doesn't also have something useful to pass along. Who picked up the old fellow's case, anyway?

-"Back where what now?" Dean, so easy to discombobulate.

-AHAHAHAHA. The Stalker Cam is particularly subtle this evening. XD

-"I've got something stuck to my shoe," is Winchester code for being followed. Good to know. Explains why Sam didn't mention the gum on his shoe in Bad Day at Black Rock? Maybe? No, not really.

-"Hey pal." Heeee! Hi Golem!

-I can't get a decent cap of Dean's flight, and that's not just because I'm laughing too hard.

-Yeah, embedding a blade in someone's arm a good inch deep and not having them flinch or bleed is generally cause for alarm.

-Sam's getting choked! And Dean was thrown into a van. What night is it? \o/


-"He's my Golem." Anything that much taller than Sam is definitely scary. Even without being impervious to knives. Good thing our big-eyed friend's got the control code for him.

-"Are you saying that you and me didn't have a 'moment?"/"Naw, man, I was tailing you." Sam's face says a whole lot of things.

-"He was my gay thing." Dean with the eloquence, Sam with the face.

-I have to admit, it's fun to see the guys looking up to someone for a change.

-"We are the good guys!" *sneeeeeeeeerk* Faces. I don't know why, but to me here Dean looks like he might have a fall back career as the human on Blues Clues.

-The Harry Potter glasses are not going to fool anyone into thinking you're not evil, fire-starting Nazi-necromancer guy.

-"The whole family was lousy for it but we... never had a golem." Heeee! Not often we get the guys stunned like this, I'm quite enjoying it.

-"He always said I'd know what to do. Which was crap." Heeeeeeee!

-"Dines on swine."/"Everybody loves bacon!" Oh dear. Nothing like a seven foot tall, 400 pound slab of intense and reasonably erudite clay being disappointed that you aren't keeping Kosher to add stress to your life.

-"Necro-who?" Just when you thought your life could not get any weirder, someone brings up the Nazi necromancers.

-Dean has a face for every occasion.

-QL673W38. Hm. My limited historical knowledge of WWII tells me it's not what I thought it might be, so that's a bit of a relief actually.

-SAM WINCHESTER HAS THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS FILING SYSTEM MEMORIZED. Just in case anyone forgot who's the sidekick geekboy. *tousles Sammy's flowing locks*

-"Birds, I'm guessing." AAAAHHH! *headdesk* It's where the book the guy put in the box in place of the book is! Of course! I cannot believe I missed that! *headdeskheaddeskheaddesk*

-"You just break in everywhere you go?"/"Yeah our dad wanted us to have a solid career to fall back on in case this hunter thing didn't pan out." Heeeeeee!

-Sam, do not go off alone, you know that never ends well.

-Dean, do not let Sam go off alone, you know that never ends well.



-"*gack* *urgh* N-necromancer!" Topping the list of things you don't want to hear any party member gasping out as they stagger out of the library clutching the magic book, let alone a party member who is also your little brother. DO NOT LET SAM GO OFF ALONE, DEAN. YES HE'S A GROWN-UP WHO CAN THEORETICALLY TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF NOW, AND IT'S GREAT THAT YOU RESPECT THAT AND TRUST HIS CAPABILITY AND ALL, BUT REALLY. IT DOES NOT END WELL.

-Ohcrapthatdoesn'tlookgood! O.O

-Dean worrying over wounded Sam! Sam whumpage! YAY! \o/ Um I mean oh no! >.>

-*Golem controller takes a torso hit* "CRAP!" Sometimes, I wish the show censors would let Dean have a more... hm... earthy level of diction. 'Crap' is good, but some situations demand something more profane.

-Pale, greenish and lolling half-unconscious is not a good look for Sam. Really. It isn't. Totally not. ...YAY WHUMPAGE! \o/

-THAT'S NOT GOOD! It's like Sam's neck has evil radicchio growing in it! AUAUAGGAHAHA!!! D:

-This is also not good, and this show has a habit of burning off sources of intel before they're even partially utilized. Hang on, golem controller whose name was probably mentioned but I managed to miss!!

-*thwip* Bahahahahah! All that's gonna do is tell the big guy what direction to look in.

-*snerk* Try not to damage the books while you're beating up the Nazi necromancer.

-Just like a cat, dragging home a rat to leave on the doorstep. Hee!

-*scrunch* Yup, quite a lot like a cat, down to the gruesome crunching noises. Good thing they were right about the spell receding when the necromancer guy died, because that would have been damned inconvenient otherwise.

-Following the circulatory system, a bit there. Things really love messing with Sam's blood.

-"The Men of Letters healed you. They saved your life." Looks like they earned some credit with the golem, although technically the golem kind of did the saving if you want to get persnickety.

-Speaking of Men of Letters, there they are, burying a body in the dark. Not burning? Hmm...
I would like to randomly insert here that it's been kind of blowing my mind since last episode that if Henry hadn't popped himself and the nifty box forward in time and Abaddon hadn't gotten all slaughtery that Dean and Sam would have been raised as occult academics? The funny thing is that although Sam is the research junkie now, I think if he'd been raised as a Legacy, with the whole family business aspect of that, he'd have rebelled against that, and Dean, because Dean adapts, would have been one scary freaking obsessive academic. I just find it interesting, in an AU sort of way. Anyway, onward.

-Ah yes, there's the fire. While very practically discussing what to do if Aaron (thanks for mentioning his name, guys) can't control his pet monster. Pragmatism and fire is what Winchesters are made of. *nods*

-"Oh my god, these guys are psychopaths." Meanwhile, for a guy who's got a golem, Aaron is a little freaked. Of course, inheriting a sentient lump of clay is a bit different than watching two guys you just met burn a corpse, so fair enough.

-Sam, warming your hands over the roasting corpse really is not helping.

-Also, Sam, either switch browsers, upgrade your memory, or switch to Google Translate, because that translation took ages for just German to English. It's not ancient Aklo!

-"Magical experiments." *minor brain goes boom moment* Supernatural universe having magic available really changes up history. I want a history crash course of all the differences now. ...I had another thought chasing around there, about maybe Alastair (Dean's torturer in Hell) having been a member of the Thule (?) society since I thought it was implied he was a Nazi torturer at one point, but I can't find the reference now so maybe I just imagined it, or it's from that fic I wrote and I was making assumptions. Never mind.

-"More horrible than words." Yes, in any reality.

-"The boy would know, if he could consult the pages." Which he can't because he's not a rabbi? So ancient rabbinical text of some kind, which makes perfect sense. Hm. A parallel to Kevin being able to read but not understand the tablet? *ponder*

-Hee. Surrounded by plaid.

-"I kind of smoked it." PFFT! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I mean horrible, bad person burning a book and all especially now that you have a golem to go with the owner's manual, but BWAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Also HI EDLUND, I SEE YOU.

-"They were these thin, vellumy pages!" HEEEEEEEEEEEE! Sam's face! Dean's 'yeah, I can see that' eyebrows.

-Gotta wonder though, what effect does smoking a potentially magic book have on a still-growing-a-bit-yet person? Hmm...

-Yelling at the golem isn't going to help, I don't think. He's already grumpy.


-"They were trying to figure out a way to bring their own dead back to life." So the Necromancer name's not just an affectation, good to know. Bet you guys are really glad you burned that corpse now.... but did you salt it first....?

-"There's a roster of every dead Thule member who was reanimated." Well that's handy. Nazi-necromancer-zombies. ...eep.

-"Headshot." Heheheheh. You mean you kill the zombies by shooting them in the head? (vid from nearly six years ago, by the inimitable hay1ock, caution, it autoplays)

-"If you don't burn the body within 12 hours it reanimates again." Ah. So. No headshot on the guy they burned and buried means they have a very crispy and pissed off zombie-nazi-necromancer about to shove his way out of the dirt, yeah? Crap.

-Whaddaya know! It's the chicken! About time he showed up again, though it looks like he's got a bankroll built up in the intervening years, with the car and driver and turtleneck and stuff.

-"They knew enough to burn his remains." When in doubt, FIRE! Which seems to work on Nazi-zombies despite lack of headshot.

-Library (or the boys, so as not to give the library a reason to investigate?) did a pretty good job fixing those shelves.

-Uh oh, looks like the golem took a hit after all. Clay dust.

-"Not tool society, Thule, T H U L E." Thank you for the spelling confirmation, Dean. Not surprised the hunting world hasn't heard of them. Sam and Dean hadn't heard of the Men of Letters before, and they were on the same side as the hunters.

-"Some have a scroll in their mouth you're supposed to rip out."/"Wouldn't that give him some sort of a lisp or something?" *snerk* Loving the reasonably (as far as I know) accurate to legend lore. Loooore! \o/

-"So that's your plan? Taking out my golem?" We've already had this discussion about being careful where you discuss things that you don't want other people hearing, haven't we boys? Sigh.

-"The golem was built to go to war, and you're not trained for that. How are you gonna take that on?"/"I don't know." DEAN'S FACE IS SAYING SO MANY THINGS RIGHT THERE I CAN'T EVEN GAAAAAH! *FLAPS HANDS* Responsibility, and taking it even though you know you aren't prepared for it and just holy crap. JENSEN ACKLES, HOW DO YOU SAY SO MANY THINGS WITH YOUR FACE IN LESS THAN A SECOND???

-Suddenly, zombie-nazis! And Dean shoves the non-combatant behind him, and Sam secures the book and it's all awesome and teamworky and I can't get a decent cap of a damn thing.

-And then the boys proceed to get their asses succinctly kicked, which is cappable. Ah well. Ooo, an uzi?

-Golem should be thumping his way into the scene aaaaany minute now.

-Yep, and scratch one hotel room, probably.

-It seems like a bad thing when your zombie-nazi (chickeeeeen) can get your golem to stand down, but I gotta say, Eckhardt is looking mighty breakable there.

-Oh crap. He just hacked Aaron's golem. O.o

-AHA, Scroll in the mouth, yep. Like a Golem Operating System. Whiiich the Eckhardt the chicken zombie-Nazi now has and can mess with. Craaaaaap.

-Write your name on the scroll. Of course. Didn't you learn anything from Toy Story? Write your name on your toys so they know who they belong to.

-Always nice when a good eyeroll reveals you're laying next to your favourite gun.

-*giggles at the Nazi-Necromancer taunting*

-Yah know, it seems to me, if you've got the control scroll for a golem and all you need to do to own it is write your name on the scroll, you'd think the smart thing to do would be not lounging around, trading gibes with the good guys, but writing your name on the scroll. But then again, evil is stupid. Also CHICKEEEEEEN.

-Not a zombie, just the guy who invented the spell through a systematic series of genocidal and torturous experiments. Well, then.

-"Spell or no spell, he broke easy, so..." Hee! Dean's taunting face.

-Ohhh dear. Aaron looks like he's thinking of being clever. The Golem's standing there with his mouth open, and now Aaron's looking around like maybe he's looking for a scrap of paper to write his name on. Not sure how that will work without the rest of the stuff on that scroll, but hey, since it's looking like you're dead anyway, why not take a chance, right? ...meep.

-Or he could be going for a stick, since everyone is ignoring him, to get the scroll, write his name, and plug the Golem OS back in. Also a chance, but with more hitting Nazis over the head with sticks.

-Okay, that was rather badass. And uncappable. Now get the scroll, write your name, and don't let the necromancer start chanting or anything.

-"You can kill me, but you will never kill all the Thule." *bang* Not like they needed your permission to shoot you in the head. Except he's not a zombie, is he, so along with living a very long time, is he also immune to headshots?

-He did have a point though. The boys have a list of the zombies made at that Camp. Since then, it can be assumed he's been in operation on a steady basis, and may have taught others the procedure, so really, who knows how many there even are at this point. He made some zombies and they made some zombies and so on and so on and so on...

-Crap, get the ring. Cameras focussing on dead bad guys' rings are never a good sign for the bad guy staying dead... Going a bit RPG geeky here, but there's a spell in the GURPS magic system called Soul Jar. An object can be made to contain someone's soul as a kind of backup to be saved for when the person can be brought back from the dead. Something like that anyway, the spell never came up in the games I was in. Anyway, I'm thinking the ring could be something like that. I'm also thinking Henry's tie pin might be something like that too though. I do a lot of thinking, and most of it is worthless though, so *shrug* just a thought. Regardless, dead bad guy ring shot is bad news.

-Awww, isn't anyone gonna reboot the poor golem? Awwwwww.

-Ah. The list of previous controllers, with his grandpa at the bottom. Awww.

-"Looks like I'm the Judah Initiative now." Awwwwwwwww! Look at that face!


-Also MUSIC. "On the Sunny Side of the Street" is it?


-Dean's breaking out the classy booze too!

-"Good." *grins all over everything*
(hey, is that a giant telescope through those red curtains??? O.o)

That was awesome, I'm very much liking all this new stuff and I am so hoping they will weave it all back through the stuff that came before. I'm also really starting to worry about Castiel. And Aaron and the Golem can come back anytime.

(PLEASE, NO SPOILERS OR REFERENCES TO UNAIRED EPISODES IN COMMENTS! Any and all promo material for unaired episodes is considered to be a spoiler in this journal. The further definition of what constitutes a spoiler for this journal is located in left hand sidebar. Theory and speculation based on aired episodes only.)

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26 comments or Leave a comment
bubblesbrnaid From: bubblesbrnaid Date: February 14th, 2013 11:40 am (UTC) (Link)
I have no idea if it's at all related, but one of the guys in the band Skid Row is named Rachel Bolan. That was my first thought at the agent name, anyway.

Granted, my brain is weird.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 07:56 am (UTC) (Link)
You're probably right on that. I'm lucky if I remember band names let alone band member names.
cassiopeia7 From: cassiopeia7 Date: February 14th, 2013 12:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
This here is beautiful. All episode reactions should be so epic. &hearts
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 07:57 am (UTC) (Link)
Aw, thank you!
gypsy_atavari From: gypsy_atavari Date: February 14th, 2013 02:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Enjoyed this so much too!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 07:57 am (UTC) (Link)
Glad you did!
ph0enix_flyer From: ph0enix_flyer Date: February 14th, 2013 03:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
Words cannot express how much I would have loved to have seen Bobby's reaction to the whole Men of Letters business. Not to mention, the man would probably fangasm at the sheer amount of knowledge that's been compiled in the vault. Come to think of it, it would be interesting to see Castiel's reaction, also. However, I can't see the brothers trusting him with this kind of thing at the moment, at least not until they figure out what's going on with him.

The direction Supernatural is going in at the moment is so promising. Have you heard that the show has officially been renewed for a 9th season? Much as I love it, I had my niggling doubts about whether they could keep a fresh and interesting story going for the ten seasons that Carver has planned.
Happy to say, I'm not doubting anywhere near so much anymore!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:03 am (UTC) (Link)
Bobby would have a field day with the Men of Letters stuff, and that library. Castiel is indeed problematic that way. :-/

*winces* Confirmation of series renewal status does class as a spoiler here usually, since it's information regarding unaired episodes. (If you think of it in terms of how it effects speculation, not knowing if the season finale is going to be a series finale or not adds a whole lot of tension and possibilities to speculation in the run up to season end than if you know there's going to be another season)

However, it's been broadly splattered everywhere, so I'll just put a warning at the top for the people who read these who do avoid most other contact with fandom to avoid finding things like that out.

I agree about the new potential, of course. :-)
ph0enix_flyer From: ph0enix_flyer Date: February 15th, 2013 05:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ah heck... whoops. My bad on that one, sorry. :(
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2013 07:32 am (UTC) (Link)
No worries. Most people wouldn't even think to consider it a spoiler.
percysowner From: percysowner Date: February 14th, 2013 03:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Great recap, but they always are. I will say that I don't think Sam rebelled because he was rebellious, I've always believed that Sam rebelled because he was miserable with the hunting life. He really did want "safe, not normal" and I don't think he enjoys the necessary, constant violence that hunting brings. So I think Sam would have taken to being a MOL like a duck to water, if they had survived as a society. I do agree that Dean would have thrived in the society as well and possibly exceeded Sam in the studies due to his desire to please and need to be good at what he does.

This does make me ponder the statement that Abbadon was a hired gun. Who hired her? Could it have been the angels, possibly in concert with the demons? If Sam and Dean had had access to the information in the MOL library would they have found a way to stop the Apocalypse without anyone having to jump into the Cage? I suppose we'll never know.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Wasn't there something in there towards the end of season 5 with Lucifer talking about Sam and rebellion? I forget now. Though if they'd become Men of Letters, Yellow-eyes might have had a harder time getting at Sam and missed out on the demon blood window.

There is a lot of next-level stuff going on in the longer-term arcs in play here. It's going to be interesting to see how they develop.
percysowner From: percysowner Date: February 15th, 2013 02:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
TBH I never thought Lucifer or Michael really had any idea of who Sam and Dean actually were as people. They were both trying to shoe horn the boys into their story, so they made up or at least emphasized the characteristics that they needed. Also, Lucifer himself wasn't portrayed as rebellious by nature. It was stated repeatedly that the only reason he took on God was because God told the angels to bow to man, because man was favored. That was more of a Dean characteristic of "protect your brothers", than simple rebellion because he was rebellious IMHO. In any case, Lucifer wanted Sam to be be his vessel and wanted Sam to see himself as an ally of Lucifer, so he was drawing comparisons where there really weren't any. Sam would never have attacked John to destroy him, all he did was walk away, like Gabriel did in his family.

In my mind, Lucifer (and Michael) had no idea how humans actually so they projected their qualities onto Sam and Dean, even though those qualities didn't fit very well at all.
irismay42 From: irismay42 Date: February 14th, 2013 07:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Now I automatically thought, "Marc Bolan" (British 1970s glam-rocker from T Rex), what with Dean's penchant for rock star aliases.

The Bat Cave's pretty damn awesome, right? I was wondering why they didn't move Kevin in too!

I'm really liking this new direction too! I've not seen this week's ep yet, so I hope they're keeping up the run of awesome!

Edited at 2013-02-14 07:05 pm (UTC)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:10 am (UTC) (Link)
Could be, as I said to bubblesbrnaid, I'm lucky if I remember band names, never mind band member names.

Bat cave is gorgeous. I want to live there. I think Kevin and anyone else moving in will become a slow inevitability, unless it all goes to hell on them and the show blows it up.
ciaranbochna From: ciaranbochna Date: February 14th, 2013 08:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
I may have shouted "call letters!!" at the screen when they were wondering about the numbers (mom gave me a look). Batcave melted my brain, yes indeed. Mom's first reaction was also "get Kevin in there" I concur.

John DeSantis is always awesome (and apparently quite a nice fellow according to Wombat, who was in comic club with him). I vaguely remember him in the halls. He did make a brilliant Lurch.

I wish someone would credit Jensen's acting, but sadly, I am not sure it will ever happen. Bastards.

Aaron and the Golem's relationship was utterly fantastic. I hope they return too.

Also thrilled with new storyline, for all the same reasons:)

Edited at 2013-02-14 08:49 pm (UTC)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:18 am (UTC) (Link)
Of course you'd recognize the call letters, because you're awesome! I forgot John DeSantis was that local of a local actor. He looked familiar, but I thought it was just another Vancouver Actor thing because he's been in a LOT of stuff.

Aaron and the Golem are awesome and adorable. There needs to be more of them on the show, and fic and chibi comic strips and stuffies! \o/
weesta From: weesta Date: February 15th, 2013 12:28 am (UTC) (Link)
\0/ I've so been enjoying these last few eps - it feels like old times! I love that we get an outsider POV on the salt & burn. Sam warming his hands surely did not put Aaron at ease. I freakin' LOVE the Batcave!!! So much goodness and potential there! When will they find the pool? Hahahaha...!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:18 am (UTC) (Link)
There must be a pool. *nods*
borgmama1of5 From: borgmama1of5 Date: February 15th, 2013 12:48 am (UTC) (Link)
So many things to love in this ep!!!
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:18 am (UTC) (Link)
So many!
rayvlin From: rayvlin Date: February 15th, 2013 01:53 am (UTC) (Link)
The only reason that I can think for the boys not wanting to bring Kevin into their bat cave is that maybe they just want it to themselves for a while. The only other thing that they own is the Impala. Maybe they don't want to share and maybe they don't want other hunters like Garth know that they found the motherload of lore. Speaking of which I wonder if they'll bring Bobby's books and their Dad's stuff over
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 15th, 2013 08:20 am (UTC) (Link)
They haven't really had a non-mobile place of their own, it's true, and also there's the practical bit of wanting to figure out what all the buttons do and where all the traps and secret doors are before they go inviting anyone round.
phorenice From: phorenice Date: February 15th, 2013 07:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Loved the ep, loved the recap!
I was spoiled for the episode title an very sceptical, but that was the most fun I've had since - well since the LARP ep, but show definitely feels like it's on the upswing.

I can't really decipher the all-caps section. It starts with "Das Versuchsobjekt" (the subject they tested). In the black part beneath the all-caps there's something about torture. The part that I can read is the black section on the left page where they talk about denying the subject all fluids for five days before administering some substance which the subject's body seemed to reject. The subject's state degenerated quickly.
In other news about the German: the guards outside where hilariously unintelligible, while the others' accents where surprisingly good. Without looking it up I think the chicken at least may have been a native. Can't really judge their accents in English.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 16th, 2013 07:38 am (UTC) (Link)
They seem to be handling the cracky "what are they even thinking?" type concepts quite deftly this season.
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caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: February 17th, 2013 04:20 am (UTC) (Link)
It'll be awhile coming yet. Life and schedules are being annoying.
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