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Mini-Reactions: Doctor Who episodes 6.04, 6.05 and 6.06 - CaffieneKittySpace
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Mini-Reactions: Doctor Who episodes 6.04, 6.05 and 6.06
Breif reactions as the Doctor Who Catchup continues.

Doctor Who 6.04 - "The Doctor's Wife"

-What I knew going in: From fandom osmosis - The Tardis would become a woman named Idris and there would be some form of flirting.

-Anytime something knocks a known Earth cultural rhythm on the door of your ship in deep space, scan before opening the doors, or inviting it in, or calling it 'scrumptious'. But it's Time Lord mail, so that's fine.

-The Corsair. Ooo. S/he won the Time Lord moniker lottery with that one.

-No one is going to believe when I eventually post the other parts of that Supernatural/Doctor Who crossover with the Weeping Angels that I had him doing nearly exactly the same thing with the removing Tardis rooms to stay in the SPN universe are they?

-Ah, someone's stealing the Tardis's soul whatever and stuffing her into some poor schlub who's getting her brain blanked by an Ood. Better than some of the other options or embodiment that popped up in my head for this, which I am trying to forget about.

-"YOU'RE MY THIEF!" "She bites."/"Do I? Excellent!" "Your chin is hilarious." I like her.

-Of course the soul of a time machine would have trouble with tenses and limiting knowledge and perception to linear time.

-"The House loves you." EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK.

-"You wanna be forgiven."/"...Don't we all?" Lovely moment there.

-"It's just what he's called, it doesn't mean he actually knows what he's doing." Heee.

-All the maydays, kept in a cupboard, and all the remaining Time Lords lured there to die. And now Eleven goes boom.

-"I had an umbrella like you once." HA!

-"I stole you."/"And I stole you. (awwwww!) What makes you think I would ever give you back?" AWWWWWWW! *flail*

-"Are all people like this? So much bigger on the inside." The meta and poetry of that nearly killed me.


-"I really don't know what to do. That's a new feeling." No, you're only being honest with yourself about it now.

-"You call me... Sexy." All the facepalm.

-"I'm thinking that all of my sisters are dead, that they were devoured and that we are looking at their corpses." Oh *hugs everywhere*

-Corridors! Hexagonal! With brass roundel things! And antigravity when the Tardis isn't controlled by a total troll. This will come in handy later. *makes notes*

-I'd heard the 'I always took you where you needed to go line before seeing this too, but it was still cool.

-"You were unlocked."/"Of course I was." HAHAHAHAHAH! :-D

-"I wanted to see the universe, so I stole a Time lord and ran away, and you were the only one mad enough." *gleeeee*

-Never go off alone to explore the strange green glow. Just saying.

-DASKJFSDK ARCHIVED CONTROL ROOMS!!! For a second I thought that fic that I have been writing since forever was about to really get hammered, but then they went into Nine/Ten's control room and there was so much yay.


-"Fear me, I've killed hundreds of Time Lords."/"Fear me, I've killed all of them." Except the ones that got eaten. And any that got out of the universe and didn't fall into the trap.

-"Alive isn't sad."/"It is when it's over." Ooof.

-"Hello, Doctor. It's so very nice to meet you." *decimates a box of kleenex*

_"The only water in the forest is River." Oh right, that arc's still arcing too. Hasn't he already met River in the Forest though? It got turned into a library. Last time she met him, first time e met her, funny how time travel does that.

-Okay, was the floor under the glass floor in the console room always full of enormous holes, because that's just nerve-wracking.

-"Do you have a room?" Aw.

Doctor Who 6.05 - "The Rebel Flesh"

-What I knew going in: From a collectible toy catalog or something - Melty people made of plastic called 'Gangers' and the Doctor would be one of them. Once I heard that I went, "Ah, doppelgangers. Which means [speculation for remainder of Series 6]the Doctor who dies at the start of the series is a doppelganger then. Sorted." Also the episode would have a class/social struggle element between Gangers and Humans because that's what Doctor Who always does in one way or another.

-The combination funny and super-creepiness of "Oh well, co-worker's dying horribly right now, gotta file paperwork about the loss of the suit he was wearing.' is not to be underestimated. Incidentally, that character is played by Marshal Lancaster, who also played Chris Skelton on Life on Mars and Ashes to Ashes, so that's cool. I like him.

-The Tardis going 'Awooga' is new, or at least uncommon.

-Just assume I've made a funny reference to the 80's RPG Paranoia, where every character has six clones here, because no one will get it anyway.

-Rory's awesomeness comforting poor little freaked out Jennifer, and Amy's proud little smile watching him just awwwwwwwww *flappy hands*

-And then she goes all power-punch snaky face and really doesn't help her case at all.

-The Doctor's smoking boots got a lingering close up because they were obviously going to be a way of telling the two Elevens apart later, but smoking boots figured heavily in the incidental art for that Paranoia RPG too, so now I'm wondering if someone in the production isn't an old Troubleshooter.

-I've got a note here, all it says is "ROOOOOOOOORRRRRYYYYYYYYY" so there you go.

-OH HI WALL FACE LADY, forgot about you.

-And Hi Ganger Doctor. Knew you were coming so that cliffhanger's wasted on me.

Doctor Who 6.06 - "The Almost People"

-What I knew going in: Just the above.

-Okay having the Ganger!Doctor assimilating 900 (he's lying about his age btw, it's more like 1300 or 1400 at this point) years of complex memories and knowledge shown by quoting the previous Doctors is WAY AWESOME.

-Amy: *something about big guns* "Why would we have guns we mine..." *hissshhh* "Acid." *snerk*

-Eleven isn't my favorite Doctor, but somehow when there's two of him playing off himself, I like him better.

-"Breathe." Um. Get out of the acid cloud first maybe?

-"My son's five." Yeah, you're so doomed, and your ganger will need to take your place. Not sure why his ganger's acid suit has no arms though.

-"You might as well call me Smith. John Smith." WIN! \o/

-The way the Ganger Doctor looked at Amy and Eleven... Aw.

-Amy is really annoying me with the prejudice all through this and she needs to shut up. It seems weirdly out of character for her too. Don't know if that's deliberate or a script fail though.

-"I want him to go." In your face, prejudiced Amy.

-"It's just too tough for a girl." And you can shut up too, Evil!Ganger!Jennifer.

-Rory getting righteously angry is an awesome thing, and needs to happen more. Makes me wish Arthur Darvill might have had a chance to play the Doctor.

-"I'll take you to a planet where everyone is all ears." Or not. Eek.

-"We swapped shoes." In. Your. Face. But how does that work, if the Gangers manifest clothes as well, aren't the shoes part of the ganger? And if they can be separated off, they're still part of the whole Flesh consciousness business, so hm. Maybe the Doppelganger Doctor who dies at the start of the season is cobbled (hahaha) together from the flesh forming the shoes. Like 10.2 was out of the severed hand. *nods*


-Happy endings. Not really, half the people were lost, one way or another.

-That one guy's sneezing was a red herring. I was so sure it would turn out to be a giveaway between the original guy and the ganger, but no. And if they can get some change happening in the treatment of gangers, maybe a happy ending of a sort can be salvaged.

-"See the early days of the Flesh." The baby is... Flesh? What?

-"There was stuff and shenanigans." Heee.

-"You haven't been here for a long time." ...WHAT? O.o

-And Amy's been a ganger since... aaaah WHEN? It's a different explanation for the baby readings than I'd thought though, it's some form of link to the actually pregnant Amy in the white room with the slidy window and the horrifying obstetrics equipment. But still. WHEN???

-To be continued. Aw nuts, I thought I'd planned these out to avoid major cliffhangers, but no. Ah well.

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aelfgyfu_mead From: aelfgyfu_mead Date: November 12th, 2013 12:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
Rory getting righteously angry is an awesome thing, and needs to happen more.

I was furious at the end of the last episode you saw: they spent all this time establishing that a Flesh being was still a person, an individual, and then the Doctor just destroyed Flesh Amy. That made absolutely zero sense to me.

Works for almost any episode he's in.

I loved, loved "The Doctor's Wife." I wasn't so happy about those that came after.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: November 13th, 2013 06:07 am (UTC) (Link)
Eleven killing Flesh!Amy didn't bother me because she'd seemed so out of character with the prejudice, and they'd been saying this was the start of the Flesh, so I'd assumed the Flesh went very bad after that and Amy was a sleeper agent. I'm not sure, I'm getting through these as quickly as possible, so I' sadly not applying much high-level brain to them. :-/

On another note, if it had been Ten, I would have shouted the place down. Something casually uncaring about about Eleven sometimes, I don't know.

aelfgyfu_mead From: aelfgyfu_mead Date: November 13th, 2013 12:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
Since when does the Doctor KILL even "sleeper agent"s? The fact that her behavior seemed different from Amy's just emphasizes that this was a separate individual.

We know he did terrible things in the Time War (though we don't have details), but I thought that was a one-time, extreme situation. I don't want a Doctor who casually kills people for not being who they say they are—or even who they think they are.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: November 13th, 2013 05:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
You have a point. At the same time, for some reason with Eleven, I didn't even note it that way. To be fair, I might have had the same lack of WTF if it was Six doing it. I also had the thought that since Amy and Flesh!Amy appear to be connected, that Flesh!Amy couldn't survive original Amy giving birth and would very soon be in horrible agony before dying, but I couldn't quite figure out how to put that into words.

I'm gathering from what you're saying that this is an action won't be explained later then. I'd kind of assumed there would be some form of explanation in the next episode. If they haven't, that's a mistake on the show's part.
aelfgyfu_mead From: aelfgyfu_mead Date: November 13th, 2013 05:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
since Amy and Flesh!Amy appear to be connected, that Flesh!Amy couldn't survive original Amy giving birth and would very soon be in horrible agony before dying, but I couldn't quite figure out how to put that into words
But I think you have now! That makes some sense. Flesh!Amy doesn't seem to be independent in the way that most of the Flesh beings are; she has flashes of what Amy is experiencing. I hadn't thought of what might happen to her.

As to whether the writers gave it any thought, you'll see. Or not.
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: November 13th, 2013 05:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
Really given the scan results, Flesh!Amy's body was having a hard enough time figuring out what to do with Amy being pregnant. Suddenly getting the signal to extrude a separate being from inside herself and what her body might do to try to duplicate that event could be quite horrific and painful and a bit like a very personal transporter malfunction.

They've been passing messages back to Amy too. "Breathe" and "Push when she tells you to" and so on, so they or at least the Doctor was aware of the duplication and that there was a conduit back to Amy. The Doctor checking out the origins of the Flesh then is connected to that, and needing to know something about what would happen to the Flesh!Amy. The strongest implication would be that at the very least she would have ended up like the Flesh people in that pile of living 'mistakes' at the mine and that that would be a cruel fate for anyone.

I'm hoping for some enlightenment on the whole matter from the next episode, but if I don't get one I can handwave. Not explaining would still be a mistake as it leaves fans with a bad view of the situation.
ciaranbochna From: ciaranbochna Date: November 12th, 2013 03:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
"The Doctor's Wife." The choking and tissues. Curse you Neil Gaiman!! Rory is just..yeah.

Edited at 2013-11-12 04:04 pm (UTC)
caffienekitty From: caffienekitty Date: November 13th, 2013 06:09 am (UTC) (Link)
RORY IS MY FAVORITE. And he is doomed. But I know he's supposed to die a lot, so his doom will be spread out at least.

I thought that might be the Gaiman episode. Did the Tardis seem a little Delirium to you? :-)
ciaranbochna From: ciaranbochna Date: November 13th, 2013 06:24 am (UTC) (Link)
There could be a touch of Delerium in there, definitely.
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